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Old 06-17-2014, 05:59 AM
 
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Naturalized citizens are citizens and they can be deported for breaking the law.
They can only be stripped of their citizenship if they commit a very serious offense.
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Old 06-17-2014, 08:00 AM
 
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How many of you have ever broken this country's underage drinking laws? You're an illegal drinker, i.e. an ILLEGAL and you should be removed from this country for disrespecting its law.
That's a fail right there. An underage drinker CAN get in trouble and be punished. And ILLEGAL alien has NO right to even be IN any country of the world and should be deported.
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Old 06-17-2014, 08:06 AM
 
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How many of you have ever broken this country's underage drinking laws? You're an illegal drinker, i.e. an ILLEGAL and you should be removed from this country for disrespecting its law.
If all of the underaged drinkers were removed from this country, then probably 75% of all college students would be deported.

If you are an illegal alien, unless you become a documented legalized citizen of the US, you are still a illegal alien and should be deported.
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Old 06-17-2014, 09:30 AM
 
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Fine I can still call them people from another country present in the US illegally.

Whether they overstayed, snuck across the border, etc. Here illegally means they are breaking federal law. No matter how PC you can get, that doesn't alter the essential truth.
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Old 06-17-2014, 09:33 AM
 
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Fine I can still call them people from another country present in the US illegally.

Whether they overstayed, snuck across the border, etc. Here illegally means they are breaking federal law. No matter how PC you can get, that doesn't alter the essential truth.
Call them what you would like to call them.

I am sick of this PC junk.
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Old 06-17-2014, 09:45 AM
 
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Call them what you would like to call them.

I am sick of this PC junk.
Calling them what they are will get me called racist, etc.

Border Patrol calls them "tonks" because that's the sound a Maglite makes when you whack them on the back of the head. Then there is the ever present ***back. Or UDI's = undocumented immigrants or EWI's = entry without inspection. Those are some of the milder terms I heard while living in Texas.
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Old 06-17-2014, 09:47 AM
 
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Default Trying to sofen the Public View.

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That's nothing new. The defenders of illegal aliens have been demanding we use PC language to describe them for quite some time now.

Correct, modern sociality is so PC correct that it is getting in the way to stating the facts as they may be. Illegal and trespassing on US Territory is a real crime and concern to most Americans.

These same so called Journalist are intentional over looking the cost of Immigration to this country. A good story would be South Americans Countries telling their citizens its ok to Break US Law?

The real criminals is the ones who let children migrate to the US Illegally.

The Primary traditional Net works will not even report certain stories. Fox has been a leader on this.

Hence is number News New Work.
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Old 06-17-2014, 05:46 PM
 
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I've had an issue with "undocumented" for some time. If they simply don't have "documents" and that is the issue, they can, just like any other citizen, get those "documents" through the state records office. I have been corrected in another area of the forum when I referred to "illegal immigrants" and I explained that I was talking about people who had illegally immigrated into the country not people without their "documents"!
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Old 06-17-2014, 06:36 PM
 
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Problem with using the word "illegal" is that entering the USA without proper papers and or permission is not a criminal offense, but an administrative one. This is why Obama, the INS, AG Holder and everyone else in Washington can create various rules on the fly as it were.

The penalty for being having entered the USA "illegally" is nothing more than being subject to removal. Key word being "subject" which means depending upon a vast and bewildering array of rules, circumstances, opinion of judge, action by a president and so forth that removal may never happen.
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Old 06-17-2014, 06:39 PM
 
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Problem with using the word "illegal" is that entering the USA without proper papers and or permission is not a criminal offense, but an administrative one. This is why Obama, the INS, AG Holder and everyone else in Washington can create various rules on the fly as it were.

The penalty for being having entered the USA "illegally" is nothing more than being subject to removal. Key word being "subject" which means depending upon a vast and bewildering array of rules, circumstances, opinion of judge, action by a president and so forth that removal may never happen.
Uh; 1st time's a misdemeanor. 2nd time caught and deported IS a felony which def qualifies as a crime. Tho both times breaking the law STILL makes it "illegal"!
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