U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Illegal Immigration
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
View Poll Results: What should we do in the short term about the illegal immigrant children sitting in detention?
If they have American Families, let them stay 11 6.40%
Deport them immediately to Mexico (Where they crossed) 49 28.49%
Deport them immediately to their home country 103 59.88%
If they don't have American family put them in foster care in the USA 9 5.23%
Voters: 172. You may not vote on this poll

Closed Thread Start New Thread
 
Old 06-26-2014, 09:15 PM
 
17,497 posts, read 10,127,846 times
Reputation: 6744

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by lvoc View Post
It is in fact an old law. But it is a law and it is the law today in the USA.

It effectively says that minors have to be treated in a certain way.

Obama et al have no real control. There is no law that allows them to deport unaccompanied minor who claim refuge against violence and drugs at home. It may be mostly BS but you have to get it into a court to make that determination.

There is no workable place to keep the kids so they let go all they can.

It is difficult to even conceive of a fix that will satisfy the various groups involved. So likely we hang up right where we are.
Sure opens the doors to all "third world" countries to overload us with their own. What a plan to ruin us without firing a shot!

 
Old 06-26-2014, 10:28 PM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
1,017 posts, read 554,032 times
Reputation: 1626
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldglory View Post
Obama's idea of retaining a family unit is to re-unite them all on our soil and allow the whole family to remain here.
I understand that - what I meant is it is very unfamily-like to virtually abandon one's child(ren). From the looks of the "children" at the border, most appear to be mid-teenaged. Shame on their parents for not taking responsibility for them, and perpetuating their criminal behavior, generation after generation. On our dime... times many billions.
 
Old 06-26-2014, 10:31 PM
 
20,611 posts, read 12,290,347 times
Reputation: 5895
Quote:
Originally Posted by lvoc View Post
It is in fact an old law. But it is a law and it is the law today in the USA.

It effectively says that minors have to be treated in a certain way.

Obama et al have no real control. There is no law that allows them to deport unaccompanied minor who claim refuge against violence and drugs at home. It may be mostly BS but you have to get it into a court to make that determination.

There is no workable place to keep the kids so they let go all they can.

It is difficult to even conceive of a fix that will satisfy the various groups involved. So likely we hang up right where we are.
Minors who break the law can STILL be locked up in juvie. If juvie's Ok for OUR hooligans, it's def Ok for illegal alien "kids".
 
Old 06-26-2014, 10:40 PM
 
12,973 posts, read 12,145,995 times
Reputation: 5398
Quote:
Originally Posted by Packard fan View Post
Minors who break the law can STILL be locked up in juvie. If juvie's Ok for OUR hooligans, it's def Ok for illegal alien "kids".
YOu would have to take them to court to get a decision that they are breaking the law. Mostly the decision will be that they are seeking asylum not breaking the law.

There is no room in juvie at that. So you either let these kids go or the local law breakers.

It really is a clever ploy in a very unpleasant way.
 
Old 06-27-2014, 05:58 AM
 
31,510 posts, read 14,580,770 times
Reputation: 8372
Quote:
Originally Posted by lvoc View Post
YOu would have to take them to court to get a decision that they are breaking the law. Mostly the decision will be that they are seeking asylum not breaking the law.

There is no room in juvie at that. So you either let these kids go or the local law breakers.

It really is a clever ploy in a very unpleasant way.
IMO, it is a stretch calling these mostly teenagers, "kids". The propaganda continues and it will be used to allow these so-called kids to remain here. Bet if these were adults over 21 they'd have a lot tougher time claiming asylum and they would be denied.
 
Old 06-27-2014, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Pa
20,310 posts, read 18,887,954 times
Reputation: 6517
They came through Mexico. Put them back in Mexico and let Mexico deal with it. Maybe then Mexico wouldn't be so willing to allow their country to be used as a pipe line for illegals coming to our country.
 
Old 06-27-2014, 10:24 AM
 
12,973 posts, read 12,145,995 times
Reputation: 5398
Quote:
Originally Posted by tinman01 View Post
They came through Mexico. Put them back in Mexico and let Mexico deal with it. Maybe then Mexico wouldn't be so willing to allow their country to be used as a pipe line for illegals coming to our country.
All you need do is change the existing law. Without that returning children to Mexico is illegal.
 
Old 06-27-2014, 10:47 AM
 
Location: US
3,074 posts, read 3,336,948 times
Reputation: 1621
Agreed. This administration has planned this intentionally. This is not a fluke. The overall plan is to force a liberal immigration reform policy, likely with blanket amnesty. Obama is blaming Congress for not getting anything done. A bi-partisan plan was developed. Nobody wanted it. The American citizens don't want it. So Obama is going to pass immigration reform on his own. When are people going to realize this administration is not acting in their best interests.

Quote:
Originally Posted by HappyTexan View Post
Obama, Biden, Mrs. DHS (forgot his name), the DOJ have all spoken regarding illegals and their "rights".
Those words have gone back to Central America over the airwaves.

Sure it's a new "law" because the administration has said they are letting people go and not deporting.
Not following the law is a new law.

Biden was just in Central America and told the people these illegal minors will get lawyers to plead asylum for them as they are running away from drugs and crime and fear for their lives.
Biden said that on their TV airwaves.
 
Old 06-27-2014, 10:59 AM
 
12,973 posts, read 12,145,995 times
Reputation: 5398
Quote:
Originally Posted by carolac View Post
Agreed. This administration has planned this intentionally. This is not a fluke. The overall plan is to force a liberal immigration reform policy, likely with blanket amnesty. Obama is blaming Congress for not getting anything done. A bi-partisan plan was developed. Nobody wanted it. The American citizens don't want it. So Obama is going to pass immigration reform on his own. When are people going to realize this administration is not acting in their best interests.
The law being utilized was passed in 1992. That is Bush I time.

So again you can blame a Bush if you like. Though there would seem little point.
 
Old 06-27-2014, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
2,834 posts, read 4,025,183 times
Reputation: 2997
I'm not a bleeding heart liberal, however, I am a human being. Most of these children have come from Central American countries where their chance of reaching adulthood are very poor. Countries like Guatemala, Honduras and Nicaragua are the worst of the bunch. I would separate these children by what countries they come from and age, if they come from a country such as Mexico, send them home, if they are over the age of 15, and come from Guatemala, Honduras and Nicaragua send them home, if they are 14 and younger and come from Guatemala, Honduras and Nicaragua then we should work on finding homes for them in this country, through the foster parent program.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Closed Thread

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Illegal Immigration
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2018, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top