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View Poll Results: What should we do in the short term about the illegal immigrant children sitting in detention?
If they have American Families, let them stay 11 6.40%
Deport them immediately to Mexico (Where they crossed) 49 28.49%
Deport them immediately to their home country 103 59.88%
If they don't have American family put them in foster care in the USA 9 5.23%
Voters: 172. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-29-2014, 01:45 PM
 
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Nobody's blaming Bush, or they shouldn't. The expanded law regarding children as victims of trafficking was signed in 2008 by Bush and was the right thing to do. It envisioned about 8000 children a year and put systems in place to provide assistance to those children. It was designed to handle the children for 72 hours and then deport them. But with this administration's current posture on immigration, we are being flooded by tens of thousands.

Did you see the pictures of the gang members coming over the border taunting our border patrol who have to just step back and let them pass that there was nothing they (the border patrol) can do and our government would be giving them money. Did you not see the reports about the criminals, the border towns going broke trying to render aid? Did you not see Biden announcing that we need more and more immigrants.

Not only minor children but their parents are hopping buses to cities. They are supposed to report for an immigration hearing, but that has shown to not likely happen.

Too bad this administration is encouraging this type of mass flux and not enforcing the laws in place. Too bad this administration is ham-stringing border patrol. Too bad this administration is letting criminals and gang members across.
The system was never designed to deport the children after 72 hours. It was designed to transfer them to some form of long term custody prior to a hearing to determine if they would be deported. there is no route to quick deportation except Mexican and Canadian children.

The border patrol has lots of methods to deal with gang bangers, particularly if they smart off. The only ones who are free to come and go are US citizens. Even permanent residents can be hassled if the BP chooses.

The back log on children is I believe about 45,000 cases which means a new arrest is not going to get a hearing for a couple of years. I expect we could cut it down by say doubling the size of the immigration courts...but that costs large sums and would probably take a couple of years.

Border towns actually tend to be pretty safe. Often well better than the US average.

You folk got a secret pit where you go to unearth these myths?

 
Old 07-01-2014, 05:29 PM
 
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Why does this administration refuse to secure the Border? Because it needs crisis to divert attention away
other scandals, corruption and failed policies! It's part of the master plan to destroy America in order to rebuild it.
To "fundamentally change" the greatest country on earth - WHY would anyone want to fundamentally destroy this greatness? It's too bad that people living in worse conditions In other countries want a better life, are willing to let their children walk across into our land so they can have an equal chance as our Children do. Are the democrats this desperate to raise new voters? What is the purpose of us transporting these kids, that are not citizens, to other states?
 
Old 07-01-2014, 05:43 PM
 
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Agreed. It ain't our fault that Honduras people have too many kids to feed. Even Mexico's now getting smart about having 2 kids per woman in 2014.
Having children...no that is not our fault.

But, what Obama did by meddling in the Honduran political structure.....shameful.

Now......the spoils is what they deal with.
 
Old 07-01-2014, 06:02 PM
 
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Having children...no that is not our fault.

But, what Obama did by meddling in the Honduran political structure.....shameful.

Now......the spoils is what they deal with.
If that had any basis in fact we would have only Honduran children.

It is simply a large set of poor have discovered a new gimmick and are working it.

And it continues until something breaks the process or we run out of eligible.
 
Old 07-01-2014, 06:53 PM
 
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Having children...no that is not our fault.

But, what Obama did by meddling in the Honduran political structure.....shameful.

Now......the spoils is what they deal with.
Then those "kids" need to be deported back to Mexico since they came here FROM Mexico. I don't care what Mexico thinks, they can take it out on Guatemala, Honduras and so on.
 
Old 07-01-2014, 07:26 PM
 
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Then those "kids" need to be deported back to Mexico since they came here FROM Mexico. I don't care what Mexico thinks, they can take it out on Guatemala, Honduras and so on.
That is simply against US law. You have to change the law to do that.

And note there is no requirement that Mexico accept a non-Mexican from the US.
 
Old 07-01-2014, 09:22 PM
 
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That is simply against US law. You have to change the law to do that.

And note there is no requirement that Mexico accept a non-Mexican from the US.
Laws CAN be changed. Back in the day Black people had less rights than white people in parts of the US. The laws got changed. Laws WILL be changed how illegal aliens are treated and those illegal aliens and their fans WON'T be happy IMHO.
 
Old 07-01-2014, 09:55 PM
 
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Laws CAN be changed. Back in the day Black people had less rights than white people in parts of the US. The laws got changed. Laws WILL be changed how illegal aliens are treated and those illegal aliens and their fans WON'T be happy IMHO.
Sure laws can be changed though your example is hopelessly inept.

However that will require give and take and the anti-illegal segment is pretty much all take at the moment...so it probably won't work.

And I doubt you will find any reql support for dumping a mess of kids back into Mexico.

And none of this makes Mexico cooperate and I see no reeason why they would. You got a Honduran you figure how to get them home.
 
Old 07-01-2014, 10:40 PM
 
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That is simply against US law. You have to change the law to do that.

And note there is no requirement that Mexico accept a non-Mexican from the US.
And it doesn't matter to the side of cheap labor and cheap votes that some of these children will die as their parents exploit them for their own selfish purposes and greed.

Boy's death draws attention to immigration perils - El Paso Times
 
Old 07-01-2014, 10:55 PM
 
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And it doesn't matter to the side of cheap labor and cheap votes that some of these children will die as their parents exploit them for their own selfish purposes and greed.

Boy's death draws attention to immigration perils - El Paso Times
Sad and we lost a boy scout in San Diego over weekend. Sad too.
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