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View Poll Results: What should we do in the short term about the illegal immigrant children sitting in detention?
If they have American Families, let them stay 11 6.40%
Deport them immediately to Mexico (Where they crossed) 49 28.49%
Deport them immediately to their home country 103 59.88%
If they don't have American family put them in foster care in the USA 9 5.23%
Voters: 172. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-04-2014, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Originally Posted by steven_h
So what you're saying is that you want them to stay, be housed, and turn this flood into a tsunami?
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No. What I said is "find homes for them, I guess."
Find them a home here, right?

You can't even agree with yourself! You deny what you mean, then repeat it. It's absolutely amazing...

 
Old 07-04-2014, 04:17 PM
 
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Every bus should be stopped or taken to lawns of White House or in it. After all Obama campaigned in 2008 saying if anyone has a 3 bedroom house that no one is sleeping in part of them they should let strangers come in and use them. The white House should have some not in use.
 
Old 07-04-2014, 04:21 PM
 
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Originally Posted by steven_h
So what you're saying is that you want them to stay, be housed, and turn this flood into a tsunami?


Find them a home here, right?

Why can't you just say YES!
A free home of course --- the liberals know full well that these very impoverished and uneducated people who cannot learn a word of English are not capable of buying a house themselves. They have skills that make their work worth $3 an hour -- and the many thousands of children coming will not be capable of earning anything. They will need the taxpayers of course to give them all houses.

And the more that come, the more word spreads back home on what a great deal it is to be in the USA where all the food is free, health care is free, and the taxpayers must provide them free houses, the more will want to also come.
 
Old 07-04-2014, 04:26 PM
 
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Every bus should be stopped or taken to lawns of White House or in it. After all Obama campaigned in 2008 saying if anyone has a 3 bedroom house that no one is sleeping in part of them they should let strangers come in and use them. The white House should have some not in use.
Please don't bring any of them here to the DC Area! We are already inundated with them and they've destroyed so many neighborhoods and schools in both black and white areas.

If they got dumped on the WH lawn, groups like CASA de Maryland and Project Hope and Harmony would just send buses for them and move them into flop houses
 
Old 07-04-2014, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Lets have a special vote. Who wants to allow the illegals to stay. A special tax of $50.00 per week per household no exceptions will be levied to pay for it. Let's see how many vote to keep them.
Politicians never have a straight up and down vote on a single issue. They pack all their nasty secrets (pork) into massive bloated acts like ACA and then claim "we need to pass it in order to know what's in it"

Congress has become the textbook example of being intentionally dysfunctional. And yes, this government is technically insane because they do the same things over and over, expecting different results.
 
Old 07-04-2014, 04:31 PM
 
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No. It should NOT be our problem. Send them all back immediately! This crisis trumps our current laws, that didn't predict this scale of the illegal alien problem. Our government should have a "crisis meeting" and enact an immediate bill to do so. Also, for the reasons why, refer to my responses and references quoted here in my post.



Great idea, in addition to other solutions. Our first priority should be to close the border NOW. Send the illegals and illegal children to Mexico immediately.



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We have been using existing laws and the new laws we are willing to make since 1986. See the progress made?

Contrary to the views often expressed here there is no will to do anything to deport the existing illegals. And after 28 years you have to be kind of dull to think it is going to occur.

And failure to do something reasonable means simply the problem gets worse over the next years.

So stick to your guns and get 20 million...
 
Old 07-04-2014, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Sorry I see very little objectionable in S744 other than your side does not want anything that provides legality to the illegals. The money spent is pretty much all on border security and ICE and little else. You don't want to increase border security?

Hispanic would need special protection in that the laws being proposed would be easily used and will certainly be used to discriminate against Hispanics. Those who wish to do so will simply presume that all Hispanics are illegals and force them to prove otherwise. That ain't how it works.

Police either hold or pass on those they capture. There is no remaining capacity in the system. There is no where to put them in either federal or non federal lock ups. And there is no money to pay to store them if you found the space.

We have now benn decades waithing for the laws we have to chase them all away. Did not happen. And for decades for new laws to pass to chase them away. Did not happen. And now we are going to wait more decades, while more enter, for new laws that will fix all this.

What is the term for one who continues to try and try and try that which does not work?

There is simply no cure for 11 million illegals. And if you folk stick to your guns we will end up with 20 million.
Once again enact laws. You are willing to back the porkster s.744 only because you like that it has 0 accountability for the criminals.
Even the E-verify portion of it is a joke because it is delayed 5 years and only for future employees.
What is the term for one who continues to try and try that which does not work? Amnesty was tried and has resulted in 11 million illegals. Amnesty doesn't work and has never worked.
Smaller laws aimed at targeting the actual problems is not only less expensive but absolutely possible.
Illegal supporter like s744 because it gives illegals a free pass.
If you have an infestation in your house do you replace the windows and doors? You might if they are bad. Or you eliminate what is drawing the infestation to your house.
Conventional wisdom dictates that you never reward unwanted behavior. If Johnny is hitting Susan do you buy him an Icecream cone and hand him a stick?
 
Old 07-04-2014, 04:37 PM
 
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We have been using existing laws and the new laws we are willing to make since 1986. See the progress made?

Contrary to the views often expressed here there is no will to do anything to deport the existing illegals. And after 28 years you have to be kind of dull to think it is going to occur.

And failure to do something reasonable means simply the problem gets worse over the next years.

So stick to your guns and get 20 million...
No we have not. Illegals have not been deported, there has been very little enforcement of the border itself and now whatever did exist has been completely erased.

How about we cut off all welfare handouts to all illegals first. Billions of dollars immediately saved. Then we go after the employers of illegals -- $10,000 per illegal per year for individuals who hire them. $100,000 per illegal per year they've been working for corporations. That will bring in a lot of the money it would take to put the illegals on ICE buses and drop them off at the border.

In fact Greyhound buses aren't even full and cost only $35 per passenger from Phoenix to El Paso -- a 7 hour drive -- so if all seats are filled, it should cost even less per illegal for a 7 hour trip to the border.
 
Old 07-04-2014, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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A free home of course --- the liberals know full well that these very impoverished and uneducated people who cannot learn a word of English are not capable of buying a house themselves. They have skills that make their work worth $3 an hour -- and the many thousands of children coming will not be capable of earning anything. They will need the taxpayers of course to give them all houses.

And the more that come, the more word spreads back home on what a great deal it is to be in the USA where all the food is free, health care is free, and the taxpayers must provide them free houses, the more will want to also come.
The main issue here is that Obama continues to suffer from self-induced collateral damage. Every time he opens his mouth something blows up; every time something blows up, his minions take to the forums and social sites to defend him (damage control.)

It is a monotonous routine.
 
Old 07-04-2014, 04:38 PM
 
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We have been using existing laws and the new laws we are willing to make since 1986. See the progress made?

Contrary to the views often expressed here there is no will to do anything to deport the existing illegals. And after 28 years you have to be kind of dull to think it is going to occur.

And failure to do something reasonable means simply the problem gets worse over the next years.

So stick to your guns and get 20 million...
Reasonable is deporting ANY illegal alien found, even kids. UNreasonable is offering any of their kind "amnesty". Deputize the cops to arrest ANY illegal alien found on sight. MOST illegals WILL disappear in less than 1 day.
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