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Old 06-21-2014, 07:41 PM
 
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SIERRA VISTA, ARIZONA—On a steep and rugged road along the U.S. border, Cochise County Sheriff Mark Dannels pointed to a well-worn foot trail leading from Mexico into Arizona.
It's a path, he said, that is frequently used by smugglers to ferry immigrants and drugs into the United States.

Border Insecurity: Arizona Ranchers Frustrated Over Smugglers, Crime - NBC News
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Old 06-21-2014, 08:12 PM
 
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Well, I live in Cochise County - in Benson (specifically mentioned in the article) - and while it IS true that illegal immigrants and smugglers do come through the area, the fact is it's STILL very safe here (though there are some more remote AREAS that are probably not that safe). While Arizona as a whole has higher crime rates than the nation as a whole, Cochise County - in spite of all the hype about it - has a LOWER crime rate than Arizona as a whole and a lower violent crime rate than the U.S. as a whole. In addition, the towns and cities closest to the border have generally very low crime. Further back from the border, Tucson and Phoenix (not in Cochise county) are much higher in regards to crime, but the area right along the border itself generally have pretty low violent crime. It IS true that Douglas (which is a dump) has surged in the last year or so, but prior to that - even WITH all the illegal immigration - it's have a crime rate lower the U.S. average. Sierra Vista - which is very close to the border - has a very low crime rate. Same is true here in Benson - very low crime. Now, you CAN argue that it's because of the heavy border patrol presence - and that may indeed be true, but the fact remains that Cochise Country as a whole (and many of the towns in particular) have less crime (especially violent crime) than the U.S. as whole (a fact that is somehow NEVER mentioned in the sensation-seeking media).

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By and large, crime along the border is overblown. Doesn't mean it DOESN'T happen, but NO ONE I know here lives in fear. And personally, I feel wayyyyyyyy safer here than I did in Seattle.

Ken

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Old 06-25-2014, 04:49 PM
 
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Well, I live in Cochise County - in Benson (specifically mentioned in the article) - and while it IS true that illegal immigrants and smugglers do come through the area, the fact is it's STILL very safe here (though there are some more remote AREAS that are probably not that safe). While Arizona as a whole has higher crime rates than the nation as a whole, Cochise County - in spite of all the hype about it - has a LOWER crime rate than Arizona as a whole and a lower violent crime rate than the U.S. as a whole. In addition, the towns and cities closest to the border have generally very low crime. Further back from the border, Tucson and Phoenix (not in Cochise county) are much higher in regards to crime, but the area right along the border itself generally have pretty low violent crime. It IS true that Douglas (which is a dump) has surged in the last year or so, but prior to that - even WITH all the illegal immigration - it's have a crime rate lower the U.S. average. Sierra Vista - which is very close to the border - has a very low crime rate. Same is true here in Benson - very low crime. Now, you CAN argue that it's because of the heavy border patrol presence - and that may indeed be true, but the fact remains that Cochise Country as a whole (and many of the towns in particular) have less crime (especially violent crime) than the U.S. as whole (a fact that is somehow NEVER mentioned in the sensation-seeking media).

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By and large, crime along the border is overblown. Doesn't mean it DOESN'T happen, but NO ONE I know here lives in fear. And personally, I feel wayyyyyyyy safer here than I did in Seattle.

Ken
if you live in the City you are certainly ok. What was the issue in Seattle? Here in the desert though there are signs warning you of activity.
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Old 06-25-2014, 06:09 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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if you live in the City you are certainly ok. What was the issue in Seattle? Here in the desert though there are signs warning you of activity.
Benson isn't exactly a "city" - and it's not just the "cities" (such as they are here) that are safe. Cochise COUNTY AS A WHOLE has a violent crime rate lower than the national average. And yeah there ARE warning signs in some areas - because some AREAS ARE routes that smugglers take where you should be "aware". Overall though, it's VERY SAFE here - as I mention wayyyyyy more safe than it was in Seattle. Seattle - like most big cities - has a much higher crime rate than Cochise County. Note too that there is a huge difference between illegal aliens coming here looking for jobs and drug smugglers. The former are unlikely to be dangerous, the latter are highly likely to be so. The vast majority of folks coming across the border are the former - breaking immigration laws to be sure, but not generally either violent or looking for trouble - they just want to get through the area as quickly as possible and move on to the more populated parts of the country where they can find jobs.

Because of sensationalized news that's absolutely inaccurate, people out there seem to think that Cochise County is some kind of war zone - which is absolutely laughable. Cochise County is FABULOUS and generally VERY SAFE.

Ken

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