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Old 12-18-2007, 04:10 PM
 
Location: California
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Uh huh, always good to post a biased source.
All articles are biased. Even the ones you provide are obscured in some way.
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Old 12-18-2007, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Link? how many left?
A please would be nice -

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/1218borderexit.html (broken link)
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Old 12-18-2007, 04:14 PM
 
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A please would be nice -

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/1218borderexit.html (broken link)
Don't you know that they don't think they should have to use any manners in here?
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Old 12-18-2007, 04:25 PM
 
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A please would be nice -

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/1218borderexit.html (broken link)
Did i break any forum rules by not using please? Me not saying please does not indicate i don't have manners as suggested by the other member.

Anyway that law in Arizona is going to get over turned once it takes effect by the courts. Many will just move to a different state.
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Old 12-18-2007, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Did i break any forum rules by not using please? Me not saying please does not indicate i don't have manners as suggested by the other member.

Anyway that law in Arizona is going to get over turned once it takes effect by the courts. Many will just move to a different state.
Nope - don't think so. It has already survived several court challenges -

Sorry

And, btw - you have not shown you have any manners -
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Old 12-18-2007, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Why should they be given amnesty at all? These are people who have knowingly broken not only our immigration laws but also used false or stolen IDs, driven without a license or insurance and the list goes on and on. Why should we want them as fellow citizens? They have bilked and swindled the US taxpayer with their anchor baby scam, ignored our housing codes, marched in our streets demanding things they are most assuredly not entitled to and desecrated our flag. Tell them the gig is up, it is long past time for them to leave. This is not 'humane'? Having them here has been anything but humane for Americans who have been forced to flee their neighborhoods and watch their local hospitals close.
Send them home. Help Americans who have lost jobs because of them get back to work. If we need seasonal agricultural workers, bring them in from other parts of the world. There is no job an illegal is doing that cannot be done equally well by someone from Romania or Nepal. Give others a chance.

The simple fact that the illegals have been here for a long time should entitle them to nothing. Least of all amnesty.
The rasons for amnesty are many but mainly that these people have been here a long time and have established roots here. Many of them even have children that are USA citizens that were born here and don't speak Spanish and don't know anything about living in Mexico. The second reason is the fact we need their labour. They do crappy work none of us would be caught dead doing. No Americans are going to hot roof buildings in the summer heat or wash dishes at Denny's. We are not interested in picking fruit either. We need these people as much as they need us.
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Old 12-18-2007, 04:33 PM
 
Location: California
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The rasons for amnesty are many but mainly that these people have been here a long time and have established roots here. Many of them even have children that are USA citizens that were born here and don't speak Spanish and don't know anything about living in Mexico. The second reason is the fact we need their labour. They do crappy work none of us would be caught dead doing. No Americans are going to hot roof buildings in the summer heat or wash dishes at Denny's. We are not interested in picking fruit either. We need these people as much as they need us.

Couldn't agree more.
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Old 12-18-2007, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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The rasons for amnesty are many but mainly that these people have been here a long time and have established roots here. .
Too Bad. As one mother recently discovered, her child who was born in the US - she either had to leave him here or take him - inasmuch as she was being deported -

She left him
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Old 12-18-2007, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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Ok that was a weird one to read. Lots of older and some recent data put together by some dude I have never heard of with no links to actual government data. Do you have any actual government data that states they give more than they take? Not a bunch of opinions from authors I have never heard of?
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Old 12-18-2007, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Last time i checked being here illegally is not a criminal offense.
Under a new amnesty, I would make it a criminal offense to re-enter the country illegally after you have been removed once. And it would require a prison term before being removed again.
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