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Old 07-02-2014, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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This all has a law introduced and passed by a huge margin in a Democrat controlled Congress that a Republican president signed into law in 1963.

As hard as I try to blame Obama, other than not having closed the border as he promised, this is simply a case of desperate people fleeing from horrid conditions.

Of course, it does not help that Dear Leader doesn't have the faintest idea what to do about it.
None of the prior 4 presidents had a solution. They have made attempts to close the border, walls, more agents and increased deportations and all failed. We should have been nation building in Guatemala and El Salvador rather than other places, the best way to stop illegal immigration is to raise their standard of living.
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Old 07-02-2014, 06:41 PM
 
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None of the prior 4 presidents had a solution. They have made attempts to close the border, walls, more agents and increased deportations and all failed. We should have been nation building in Guatemala and El Salvador rather than other places, the best way to stop illegal immigration is to raise their standard of living.
The cultures in ANY place need to change 1st, other wise it'd be pouring money down the toilet.
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Old 07-02-2014, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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The cultures in ANY place need to change 1st, other wise it'd be pouring money down the toilet.
I think we have a considerable role in what happened in El Salvador, not so much Guatemala not sure about Honduras.
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Old 07-02-2014, 09:29 PM
 
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I think we have a considerable role in what happened in El Salvador, not so much Guatemala not sure about Honduras.
Not my problem. Let LatAm help their own. If those people hate the US so much for what we might've done there, then they can stay HOME. Sheesh!
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Old 07-02-2014, 11:22 PM
 
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Illegals were instrumental in busting the unions. Rightwingers should love them. Illegals grow the bottom line of business. Rightwingers should love them. What's wrong with you rightwingers, anyway.

On the flipside, liberals should hate them for hurting working Americans.

Illegal immigration. Bizzaro world extrordinaire.
Old time liberals were a different breed. Walter Mondale and Ralph Abernathy actually participated in a march to the border with Cesar Chavez to demand the enforcement of the border -- but keep in mind that the very liberal Pelosis were the growers using illegals to make their billions of dollars -- and the very liberal greedy liberals are the ones that have taken over the left wing of politics.
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Old 07-02-2014, 11:25 PM
 
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The Senate passed an immigration reform over a year ago, and it had votes from both sides. This resolution would bring major upgrades to border security and deportations measures, but the House refuses to vote on it, and they said they will not vote this year either. The GOP is gambling that having an immigration problem buys them more votes than resolving the problem.
That doesn't justify the complete shredding of all immigration laws and throwing the border wide open.

Current immigration laws are not being enforced at all --- we never needed "reform", all that was needed was enforcement of existing laws. Instead Obama has eliminated all enforcement of any kind of immigration laws -- at least for Central Americans.

Americans coming back to the USA have to show passports or proof of citizenship or face problems getting in -- but illegals with no passports or visas or anything are being waved on in. Why?
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Old 07-02-2014, 11:29 PM
 
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It is Obama's fault. It's every president's fault. Obama hasn't done anything to ward off immigrants. Bush Jr. was even worse and failed to close the border even though he had a wide opening to do so and perhaps could have pulled if off the easiest.
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Old 07-03-2014, 02:53 AM
 
Location: London
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Schengen: word was countries that wanted to join up had to take care of business 1st before being Ok'd. Mexico def does NOT meet the rules in 2014. Same thing, Turkey.

Canada does meet the rules IF "Schengen" wanted to include the US and Canada.
Not sure how this is relevant to what Oldglory said: "There is not a country in the world that would want their borders erased".
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Old 07-03-2014, 05:28 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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If you supporters really wanted to help these Countries you can sign up to be a mercenary.
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Old 07-03-2014, 07:48 AM
 
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Old time liberals were a different breed. Walter Mondale and Ralph Abernathy actually participated in a march to the border with Cesar Chavez to demand the enforcement of the border -- but keep in mind that the very liberal Pelosis were the growers using illegals to make their billions of dollars -- and the very liberal greedy liberals are the ones that have taken over the left wing of politics.
Hell; those 3 dudes you named would all be called "Tea Party racists" in 2014 even tho 2 weren't anglo white.
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