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Old 07-03-2014, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact
Not sure any of the kids do this (not sure how it is interpreted), so that code would not necessarily apply.
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Old 07-03-2014, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Cedar Park, Texas
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#3 - it all gets down to a couple of basic questions: If you don't have borders, do you have a country? Even if I consider my children would have a better life living in France, the French could care less. On a percentage basis, they are more aggressive in forcibly removing those "without papers" than we are. Because they recognize the second question - what are we responsible for? I'll stick with the French thought that we are responsible for those that are here legally. Once we stop killing our veterans because we ration their medical care, then I might consider the billions of additional expenses of anyone that can get to our border. Guess that makes me a "complete a$$ hole".
Not sure where you got this info on France, but the country is in serious trouble from N Africans coming into the country and taking advantage of the socialist systems. People there have the same feelings we do here about immigration, just a different influx of population, but for the same reasons. If our government would make it easier for people to come here documented, work and pay taxes that would help. But with the never ending gridlock in DC, this can't happen. And by the way, there are plenty of US born freeloaders here that should be deported. Maybe we can exchange the people who want to work for the ones that don't. (sarcasm)
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Old 07-03-2014, 08:46 AM
 
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What makes me wonder is why is this is happening all of a sudden. Why did all these parents pick the same time to send their children to the US?
There was an advertising campaign reportedly financed by the US Govt that there are "permissos" to come to the US and stay. It was orchestrated months in advance and is intentional.
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Old 07-03-2014, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Sacramento Mtns of NM
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Have some compassion, these are children, not cattle.
The American public is deliberately being denied full disclosure of the MEDICAL problems these children are imposing on the general public by being transported all over the USA on public transport. How would YOU like to know that you are cooped up in a plane cabin with kids bearing antibiotic resistant tuberculosis, scabies, dengue fever, head lice, etc.

You may wish to enlighten yourselves about what is happening right in your backyard. This article is about Lackland AFB in San Antonio, but the same "gag order" is being forced on medical workers at other immigrant retention sites in the USA.

medical-staff-warned-keep-quiet-about-illegal-immigrants-or-face-arrest


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Old 07-03-2014, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Warrior Country
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What kind of complete a$$ hole do you have to be to not give a Damn about children? You've been watching way too much Fox entertainment television. Most of these kids don't speak Spanish and have never been to Mexico. Put yourself in the parents shoes. What would you do to provide your children with a better life? Probably not much considering your comment. I have 4 kids and I would violate many laws to protect and provide for them.
What does Fox have to do with any of this?

& Personally.....I'd rather have an illegal or undocumented kid (& his parents) in this state.... than people from other states who went thru a loan modification or a foreclosure (or have ever been on welfare).
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Old 07-03-2014, 09:00 AM
 
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The American public is deliberately being denied full disclosure of the MEDICAL problems these children are imposing on the general public by being transported all over the USA on public transport. How would YOU like to know that you are cooped up in a plane cabin with kids bearing antibiotic resistant tuberculosis, scabies, dengue fever, head lice, etc.

You may wish to enlighten yourselves about what is happening right in your backyard. This article is about Lackland AFB in San Antonio, but the same "gag order" is being forced on medical workers at other immigrant retention sites in the USA.

medical-staff-warned-keep-quiet-about-illegal-immigrants-or-face-arrest


This invasion was in no way unexpected. It was planned and executed.
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Old 07-03-2014, 09:05 AM
 
Location: The People's Republic of Austin
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Not sure any of the kids do this (not sure how it is interpreted), so that code would not necessarily apply.
The clauses are linked by "or", not "and". This is the operative clause:

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(1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or
I don't think a Mission, TX public park qualifies as "designated by immigration officials" so yes - 1325 does apply. #3, which you refer to is when one enters into a sham marriage, or misstates their student status, etc.

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Old 07-03-2014, 09:16 AM
 
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There was an advertising campaign reportedly financed by the US Govt that there are "permissos" to come to the US and stay. It was orchestrated months in advance and is intentional.
How do you know this? When I lived in Marin County CA, there was an influx from one particular province of Mexico. A County official actually traveled down there to see what was going on. Turned out that there were posters all around that Marin County was inviting people to come and would welcome them. This had been put up, apparently, by the coyotes who profit from the transport fees. It certainly was an organized plan, but not by any US governmental agency. How do you know that rumors of these "permissos" are not similarly promoted by people in those countries for financial gain?
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Old 07-03-2014, 09:18 AM
 
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This makes absolutely no sense, other than displaying common ignorance.
It would if you lived near Austin.
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Old 07-03-2014, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Little Pond Farm
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They aren't going to tell the public where these people are going because they don't want the sheep to see recipient towns people turn them away, it is bad PR and it could catch on with the other flocks of sheep. I would be willing to bet that in a few months we will find out that this was orchestrated and planned by Obama to soften public opinion on illegal immigration by using children.
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