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Old 07-05-2014, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Richmond/Philadelphia/Brooklyn
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If anything we should be kicking people OUT, not bringing them IN.
THIS kind of attitude is entirely what is WRONG with America.

 
Old 07-05-2014, 08:48 PM
 
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Latinos Learn English Faster Than Previous Immigrants, Study Finds

I know it isn't un-backed anecdotes or un-backed personal opinion... but....

This study from U of W and Columbia University shows that DESPITE having more Spanish speaking options in the U.S.A., that Latinos learn English FASTER than the immigrants of the past.

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Old 07-05-2014, 08:49 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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I would just like to point out to the readers that these people are NOT citing sources for their OPINIONS.

75% of first generation immigrants speak English
92% of second generation immigrants speak English
96% of third generation immigrants speak English.

These anecdotes being told DO NOT MATTER in the face of studies and polls that reveal that the contrary is true.
All of those numbers should be higher.

My parents are second generation. They speak English.

I'm third generation. I speak English.

My grandparents all spoke/speak English. (And they didn't come from English-speaking countries.)
 
Old 07-05-2014, 08:52 PM
 
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All of those numbers should be higher.
Uh, they are higher than they were for Germans in the 19th century when they were coming over....

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My parents are second generation. They speak English.
So do 9 out of 10 second generation immigrants today...

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I'm third generation. I speak English.
Along with OVER 95% of immigrants today.

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My grandparents all spoke/speak English. (And they didn't come from English-speaking countries.)
So do three quarters of first generation immigrants today. Today's immigrants start using English FASTER than the immigrants of the past did.
 
Old 07-05-2014, 09:06 PM
 
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the question is whether the united states should flood the country with immigrants or should it be more strict about immigration

the question isnt whether immigrants are willing to work for less, the question is whether the immigrant should be in the country in the first place
 
Old 07-05-2014, 09:07 PM
 
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the question is whether the united states should flood the country with immigrants or should it be more strict about immigration

the question isnt whether immigrants are willing to work for less, the question is whether the immigrant should be in the country in the first place
If you want a red hot economy the answer is yes, IF you end the welfare state.
 
Old 07-05-2014, 09:10 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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What's really bad these days is all the bilingual signs. When you think about it, it's being done for illegal aliens.

My father was born in Puerto Rico and his parents brought him to New York when he was a child. He told me how he started school not knowing English. In his class, were other kids whose parents were European immigrants but were in the same boat as my father. My father told me that by the end of the school year, they all spoke English. This was before there was bilingual education. As my father put it, we all knew that we needed to learn English if we were to survive.

These days when you call a company, you hear "para Espanol oprime dos". My father says that this has no place in our country. Even though Spanish is his first language, he refuses to "oprime dos".

When Puerto Ricans started moving to the Mainland, nobody put up signs in Spanish for them---and they are American citizens. It's galling that we are doing this for illegals. Even worse, many of those illegals are illiterate and can't even read the Spanish signs

Great points well taken, and well said.
 
Old 07-05-2014, 09:27 PM
 
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I live in a suburb south of Seattle, and I've seen first hand what it has brought to date. I just drove through my local park, filled with thousands of hispanics. Not one white person. People just hanging out of their cars drinking cervezas and smoking, oggling passersby, kids just running through the parking lot unsupervised. WOW!
 
Old 07-05-2014, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Australia
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Come to the country legally or just **** off.

USA is going to turn into third world cesspool like Central America at this rate.
 
Old 07-05-2014, 09:58 PM
 
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THIS kind of attitude is entirely what is WRONG with America.
Our population is currently over 300 million. We are running out of potable water and buildable land. This country is deep in debt with crumbling infrastructure.

And you want to flood this country with even more people
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