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Old 07-06-2014, 09:47 AM
 
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What we need is immigration reform which includes securing the border but also paving the way for those already here for legal status of some kind i.e. legal resident or citizen. There is no way you are going to deport 11 million illegals.
That idea is not working -- that's exactly what has led to this crisis of thousands coming every day -- they're coming to get in on that big Obama amnesty.

There is no reason at all to give those who came here illegally some legal status -- at the very least leave them illegal --- but deportation does work. It's just not being done.

 
Old 07-06-2014, 09:50 AM
 
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Lies. I have cited every source I have used.

Look at your posts, a bunch of claims, NO CITED EVIDENCE!

Also, you can't read. I have said OVER AND OVER that the welfare state MUST be abolished before borders are opened.

I have posted many sources and videos addressing your concerns, my guess is you didn't click them.
Okay -- but the welfare state has NOT been abolished -- not by any stretch so let's have no more idiotic talk of opening up the borders to all and handing all those who choose to break the law, legal status and citizenship until it is abolished.

Get rid of Medicaid, food stamps, WIC, housing vouchers, SSI, unemployment handouts and then we can talk about letting the entire 2 billion impoverished of the world come on in and take jobs from Americans.
 
Old 07-06-2014, 12:00 PM
 
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We will become segregated once again with whites, blacks, hispanic, Middle Eastern and Asian. We will become like Iraq with in fighting of "tribes" and I believe we will once again belong to tribes. We will be fighting among ourselves over laws and the culture clashes that will happen. Ethnic groups will try to gain political power and use that power to push that ethnic groups agenda. Ethnic groups will "stick together" and we will look like the Game of THrones.
 
Old 07-06-2014, 12:35 PM
 
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None of that is true. They spoke Irish, and the numbers are only off by a couple million.



Ugh, Scots brought Scot culture, English brought English culture, etc... Assimilation does not mean forsaking your roots.




Untrue. Simply untrue.

More bigoted non-sense... it isn't an issue of race or culture, it is socio-economic. Poor white people from America do the EXACT same crap, AND they feel even more entitled to my money.




You didn't read my posts did you? I have maintained from the beginning that the welfare state needs abolished. They don't have a right to my money without my consent, and YOU do not have a right to my money without my consent. I don't give a crap where you where born.
The only " bigoted" nonsense is coming from those that don't support your weak argument ? OK you have all the answers.

BTW assimilation didn't mean forsaking your roots, it means not imposing your culture on others genius
 
Old 07-06-2014, 01:29 PM
 
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I've got Xander on ignore where he will stay but --- The Irish who came here did indeed know English. It was forced on them back in Ireland when they were occupied by the Brits
 
Old 07-06-2014, 03:33 PM
 
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I've got Xander on ignore where he will stay but --- The Irish who came here did indeed know English. It was forced on them back in Ireland when they were occupied by the Brits
Thanks, I'm putting him on ignore also, I'm not interested in made up drivel.
 
Old 07-06-2014, 05:14 PM
 
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I've got Xander on ignore where he will stay but --- The Irish who came here did indeed know English. It was forced on them back in Ireland when they were occupied by the Brits
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Thanks, I'm putting him on ignore also, I'm not interested in made up drivel.
Say the guys who CAN'T provide ANY evidence to support their claims... and ignore cited, verifiable evidence.

It is cute how bigots run away from facts because they can't argue against them.

Dear reader, the choice is yours to make, these people have provided a TOTAL sum of ZERO evidence to their claims, and I have debunked them with university published, peer-reviewed studies, and polls from reputable polling companies.

The best part is that I get to THRASH your silly, made up drivel, and you cowards have ran from the conversation so you can't bother me with more nonsense.
 
Old 07-06-2014, 05:20 PM
 
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Okay -- but the welfare state has NOT been abolished -- not by any stretch so let's have no more idiotic talk of opening up the borders to all and handing all those who choose to break the law, legal status and citizenship until it is abolished.

Get rid of Medicaid, food stamps, WIC, housing vouchers, SSI, unemployment handouts and then we can talk about letting the entire 2 billion impoverished of the world come on in and take jobs from Americans.

Yeah, I know it hasn't and I have plainly stated that open borders CAN NOT work in a welfare state, the answer is ending the welfare state and opening the borders.

The welfare state needs abolished anyway, it is just as wrong to rob Peter to pay Paul as it is to rob Peter to pay Juan.

NOBODY is advocating inviting new immigrants to live off of welfare, NOBODY.


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The only " bigoted" nonsense is coming from those that don't support your weak argument ? OK you have all the answers.
Your side has posted ZERO evidence to their claims, ZERO!

They just argue using anecdotes and stereotypes... the tools of bigots. Nobody has posted ANY evidence to prove that I am wrong, let alone verifiable evidence.

I have posted plenty of evidence from reputable polling institutions and universities. They have countered with "La la la! I can't hear you."

You guys run away from facts, and act like it makes you cool... you guys are conclusively loosing the argument and I am loving it.

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BTW assimilation didn't mean forsaking your roots, it means not imposing your culture on others genius
Show me the quote where I said assimilation is forsaking your roots, not-so-genius.
 
Old 07-06-2014, 05:56 PM
 
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Say the guys who CAN'T provide ANY evidence to support their claims... and ignore cited, verifiable evidence.

It is cute how bigots run away from facts because they can't argue against them.

Dear reader, the choice is yours to make, these people have provided a TOTAL sum of ZERO evidence to their claims, and I have debunked them with university published, peer-reviewed studies, and polls from reputable polling companies.

The best part is that I get to THRASH your silly, made up drivel, and you cowards have ran from the conversation so you can't bother me with more nonsense.
Name calling is what you have left??

That figures.
 
Old 07-06-2014, 05:56 PM
 
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Say the guys who CAN'T provide ANY evidence to support their claims... and ignore cited, verifiable evidence.

It is cute how bigots run away from facts because they can't argue against them.

Dear reader, the choice is yours to make, these people have provided a TOTAL sum of ZERO evidence to their claims, and I have debunked them with university published, peer-reviewed studies, and polls from reputable polling companies.

The best part is that I get to THRASH your silly, made up drivel, and you cowards have ran from the conversation so you can't bother me with more nonsense.
Uh; please settle down because I'm 100 percent sure YOU'VE been reported for trying to start fights.
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