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Old 07-04-2014, 12:47 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Xander_Crews View Post
This thread is rediculous fear mongering.

Economists agree, if you opened every border, world gpd would double... If just the U.S. opened it's borders, production would at least quadruple, which also means more consumption and more wealth.

The U.S. would FLY past the BRICS nations if they opened their borders, and we could get rid of some of this ridiculous debt. To bad it won't happen because bigots like to pretend the welfare problem is an immigration problem.

If some guy can wander across the border with no shoes, no education, and no knowledge of the English language.. and they can still take your job from you... you are a loser. Your job can be done by somebody with no education and no knowledge of English, yet you expect to get paid a living wage for it...

This comes from a source that liberals call "too conservative":


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDK9Ic2qx3I
No one is worries the guy with no shoes will take their job....just their money.

 
Old 07-04-2014, 12:52 PM
 
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No one is worries the guy with no shoes will take their job....just their money.
So you admit that you are one of the people who confuse the welfare problem for a immigration problem. Immigrants are poor, but so are a lot of Americans, and by percentage MUCH less immigrants use welfare than poor Americans.

The problem is wealth redistribution, not people peacefully moving across imaginary lines and making voluntary arrangements with an employer.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eyJIbSgdSE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfU9Fqah-f4




It would do you well to watch the videos you quote. Your entire claim was debunked by the FIRST video I posted.
 
Old 07-04-2014, 01:19 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Xander_Crews View Post
So you admit that you are one of the people who confuse the welfare problem for a immigration problem. Immigrants are poor, but so are a lot of Americans, and by percentage MUCH less immigrants use welfare than poor Americans.

The problem is wealth redistribution, not people peacefully moving across imaginary lines and making voluntary arrangements with an employer.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eyJIbSgdSE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfU9Fqah-f4




It would do you well to watch the videos you quote. Your entire claim was debunked by the FIRST video I posted.
However.....illegals have NO right to anything in this country.

I will continue to keep my money and spend it as I like.
 
Old 07-04-2014, 01:54 PM
 
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However.....illegals have NO right to anything in this country.

I will continue to keep my money and spend it as I like.
American's don't have a right to your money either. At least they shouldn't. I shouldn't have to pay for lazy people I have never met, even if they are American.

You are confusing a welfare problem with immigration.
 
Old 07-04-2014, 02:01 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Xander_Crews View Post
American's don't have a right to your money either. At least they shouldn't. I shouldn't have to pay for lazy people I have never met, even if they are American.

You are confusing a welfare problem with immigration.
No......I do not believe these current illegals in question can support themselves.

Do you feel they will be independent???

They are already costing the USA.
 
Old 07-04-2014, 03:24 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Xander_Crews View Post
This thread is rediculous fear mongering.

Economists agree, if you opened every border, world gpd would double... If just the U.S. opened it's borders, production would at least quadruple, which also means more consumption and more wealth.

The U.S. would FLY past the BRICS nations if they opened their borders, and we could get rid of some of this ridiculous debt. To bad it won't happen because bigots like to pretend the welfare problem is an immigration problem.

If some guy can wander across the border with no shoes, no education, and no knowledge of the English language.. and they can still take your job from you... you are a loser. Your job can be done by somebody with no education and no knowledge of English, yet you expect to get paid a living wage for it...

This comes from a source that liberals call "too conservative":


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDK9Ic2qx3I
uh, NO decent country has open borders to places like Mexico, Turkey, Ukraine, India and so on. Def NO reason for the US to even think that foolish stuff.

Your comment about letting in some peasant to take a job from an American IS insulting because not all of us are smart enough for "educated" jobs, maybe YOU want to have millions of pissed off Americans who can't even find work, I don't.
 
Old 07-04-2014, 03:28 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Packard fan View Post
uh, NO decent country has open borders to places like Mexico, Turkey, Ukraine, India and so on. Def NO reason for the US to even think that foolish stuff.

Your comment about letting in some peasant to take a job from an American IS insulting because not all of us are smart enough for "educated" jobs, maybe YOU want to have millions of pissed off Americans who can't even find work, I don't.
PackardFan---Don't you know? Xander is going to personally take care of all the illegals using his own funds
 
Old 07-04-2014, 03:33 PM
 
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Originally Posted by theunbrainwashed View Post
What are the statistics on illegal aliens using welfare? I'm talking about the illegals themselves, not any US born children they may or may not have; who, by definition, are eligible for welfare benefits because they are Americans.

But, since you mentioned welfare benefits for their anchor babies, you do know that the benefit amounts is only barely enough to cover their children only, not themselves? Oh, and, by definition, these kids are Americans. But, I'm sure your politics say that no American is allowed any welfare anyway
Now you are being totally dishonest and you know it !!!

When Anchor baby infants get checks who reaps those benefits???? Their ILLEGAL parents cash those checks, live in the section 8 paid for homes , cook and eat welfare bought groceries, etc, etc...

Not to mention all the bilingual forms and hospital visits for these LEECHES.

BTW AMERICANS and LEGAL residents are entitled to help, no comparison. Often times Illegals are listed as single moms when they aren't to further scam the system.

No need for your dishonest, twisted deflection, you and I know that illegals live in welfare paid for housing, eat welfare paid for groceries and utilize any AND everything else under the sun fraudulently.
 
Old 07-04-2014, 03:36 PM
 
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Originally Posted by BOS2IAD View Post
PackardFan---Don't you know? Xander is going to personally take care of all the illegals using his own funds
If you're right then Xander NEEDS to be in jail for helping out ILLEGAL aliens to stay in the US.
 
Old 07-04-2014, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by BigDGeek View Post
If DFW is any indication...

Middle-class suburbs will be thronging with Indians and Chinese immigrants taking all the white-collar jobs, and undereducated Latinos will be mowing their lawns and cleaning their houses.

OH WAIT, that's already happening.
Ha ha ha...suck it!


P.s. did not take you for a racist.
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