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Old 07-04-2014, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Originally Posted by Nafster View Post
Perhaps that if they want to be a part of this country really badly, enough to illegally enter, the least they could do is respect the flag and not shout "f*ck America!"
Perhaps they are simply criminals and like all criminals feel that laws don't apply to them unless the law favors their agenda? I am leaning towards the criminal angle myself. The ID theft/ fraud, document fraud, tax evasion/ fraud, driving without a license, driving without insurance, working illegally. These crimes all seem to point to a criminal mentality.

 
Old 07-04-2014, 10:05 PM
 
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Yes he can and as the SCOTUS just reminded him that doesn't mean he is always right to do so, nor does it mean he can ignore our laws just because he disagrees with them.
Most cons think Obama invented the executive order. Really, Bush's legal team sought to greatly expand the President's powers. Hell, I read comments here that show many don't understand how the commander-in-chief thing works
 
Old 07-04-2014, 10:05 PM
 
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You're not sure why he's pointing at Obama? Have you been living under a rock recently? Congress rejected immigration reform. Obama announced that he was going to take steps to do the reform without Congress.

The people's elected representatives say no to a certain issue. The president then says he's going to go ahead and do it anyway on his own. And you're not sure why people are pointing at him?

Are you unfamiliar with the concept of different branches of government having different areas of responsibility? Obama took an oath to uphold the constituion - the constitution which forbids the president from making laws - and has now publicly announced that he is going to ignore that oath, ignore the peoples' representatives, and ignore the checks and balances of American government.
Good god, we desperately need immigration reform. Why is congress rejecting this. This should have been resolved decades ago. Someone needs to step up and take control of this.
 
Old 07-04-2014, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Yes he can and as the SCOTUS just reminded him that doesn't mean he is always right to do so, nor does it mean he can ignore our laws just because he disagrees with them.
Off topic, but I think the president was in the right for trying to challenge Congress with their joke of a pro-forma session they were doing.
 
Old 07-04-2014, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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Really? In 2014 there is no cell video and the only photo is of the aftermath with a photo of a flag on the ground? Can't tell from that which side put it there. If the described events (burning a flag, dragging a flag on the ground, yelled obscenities...) really happened there would be cell phone footage.
 
Old 07-04-2014, 11:26 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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What is this anti-illegal crowd chanting?
"USA! USA! You can't hide - we charge you with genocide." WTF?

Shouting matches break out at Murrieta demonstration
 
Old 07-04-2014, 11:57 PM
 
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Good god, we desperately need immigration reform. Why is congress rejecting this. This should have been resolved decades ago. Someone needs to step up and take control of this.
No we don't, we need comprehensive immigration ENFORCEMENT.

These people are never happy and would continue to defy any and all laws, we would be back in the same situation but much worse in a few years.

Mexico and Central America account for about 75% of all illegal immigration.

Mexico is just 1 of how many countries out there , 206 maybe?

Yet Mexicans believe they are entitled to 100% of available visas, How in the world is that fair ???
 
Old 07-05-2014, 01:52 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Mexico normally has strong control over its Southern border. Why are they letting all these people through, including thousands of children? To what end? This is a looking more and more like a repetition of some of the democidal maniac governments that we saw in the 20th century.

Mexico is not our friend, and it's time to start treating them as such.
 
Old 07-05-2014, 01:56 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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Mexico is not our friend, and it's time to start treating them as such.
Go ahead and lead the charge on that one. Tell us all how it works out.

Until then, you're just blowing hot steam. I suggest you use your voting power to put someone who will actually enforce immigration laws in office instead of playing armchair politician.
 
Old 07-05-2014, 03:04 AM
 
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Good god, we desperately need immigration reform. Why is congress rejecting this. This should have been resolved decades ago. Someone needs to step up and take control of this.
Yes Natalie, let's "f*ck America" with immigration reform, as these hate-filled, reform-supporting La Raza protestors like to put it.

Evil America deserves immigration reform. And then we can threaten jail time for everyone who doesn't like having Central American gang members bused into their towns because racist scumbags don't get to complain.
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