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View Poll Results: Should we let them stay because they are from a living hell?
Yes, they are refugees! 2 1.82%
In most cases, yes... 6 5.45%
NO! There are kids living in hellish conditions all over the world 102 92.73%
I don't know 0 0%
Voters: 110. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-07-2014, 06:36 AM
 
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They could have stopped at Mexico.
Obama should have stayed out of their politics......and never should have started the path for them to come.

Obama lied to them.....just has he has lied to us.

Now this is what we have.....a mess.

The way to fix it is do not send them back......that is not our place.

Just put them over the border in Mexico......in time the Mexican government will learn to guard their border.....not make money on these travelers.
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Old 07-07-2014, 07:34 AM
 
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Using that definition, a bunch of kids living in parts of Detroit and Chicago would qualify as needing to be saved. Yet no one seems interested in rushing in to save those two cities.

I think we should clean up our own problems before we take on everyone else's.
Agreed.
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Old 07-07-2014, 08:46 AM
 
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I wonder if this poll was on another site there would be a more mixed viewpoint on this. TV New Channels are full of pundits who say America owes these poor children a new home.
Most of the national pundits live in areas where they are certain none of these children will be coming, impacting their children's schools, overwhelming their health facilities. Very hypocritical of them.
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Old 07-07-2014, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Is it our responsibility to accept the kids who come to America illegally by themselves because it is a living hell in Central America? Gangs, murder, harassment, etc.
We are not our brothers keepers, people have to understand that. No one could care for kids anymore than I do; my heart goes out to these kids, but it isn't our responsibility to take care of them. If we send them back, sooner or later their families will get the idea. They are using these kids, it is as simple as that. The next thing you know we will be letting all the parents in so they can see little Rosa and Pedro. Why not just send planes to Africa to bring back the sick, poor and kids with no parents or invite the kids living in No. Korea to come here and escape dictatorship.
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Old 07-07-2014, 01:33 PM
 
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If we are accepting everyones "refugees", then these same countries should stop receiving foreign aid. In fact, they should pay the USG for taking care of their kids. Honduras and Guatemala should pay us a monthly WIC check.
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Old 07-07-2014, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Bothell, Washington
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Is it our responsibility to accept the kids who come to America illegally by themselves because it is a living hell in Central America? Gangs, murder, harassment, etc.
No- it is our government's responsibility to take care of us, the people of the United States. It is up to the governments of each of these kids' countries to take care of them. Until every single person in this country is well cared for, and everything is perfectly in order here, we should not be spending our money trying to care for these others.

And if we do let these kids stay, we need to find a way to make sure NO local, state, or federal funding goes towards any benefits for them- no medical care, food, or even public school- our social programs are overburdened as it is and can't afford to cover all of the citizens and legal residents, so we shouldn't even begin to think about spending even ONE DOLLAR on any of these illegal immigrants. Make them pay for private school, pay their own way for everything- I'll bet many would leave!
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Old 07-07-2014, 03:47 PM
 
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If we are accepting everyones "refugees", then these same countries should stop receiving foreign aid. In fact, they should pay the USG for taking care of their kids. Honduras and Guatemala should pay us a monthly WIC check.
Sorry...we send aid to them.
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Old 07-08-2014, 10:33 AM
 
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It's a tough situation...little kids coming from dysfunctional, corrupt, and violent countries. My heart goes out to them. However, realistically, we just can't take in everyone who comes from that type of environment;there are too many--similar to trying to overload one life boat with an ocean full of drowning people. Everyone goes down.

The answer to me is to secure the darned border. Have an orderly immigration system. Streamline that if needed. I have a feeling the legal immigration system is convoluted and confusing. But in today's modern welfare state, we just cannot have virtually open borders. It's just common sense.

Try to help these people as much as possible in their home nations. I don't know what the answer is to repairing a dysfunctional, corrupt, violent nation. We're having enough trouble fixing our own dysfunction here. Just my two cents.
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Old 07-08-2014, 10:35 AM
 
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It's a tough situation...little kids coming from dysfunctional, corrupt, and violent countries. My heart goes out to them. However, realistically, we just can't take in everyone who comes from that type of environment;there are too many--similar to trying to overload one life boat with an ocean full of drowning people. Everyone goes down.

The answer to me is to secure the darned border. Have an orderly immigration system. Streamline that if needed. I have a feeling the legal immigration system is convoluted and confusing. But in today's modern welfare state, we just cannot have virtually open borders. It's just common sense.

Try to help these people as much as possible in their home nations. I don't know what the answer is to repairing a dysfunctional, corrupt, violent nation. We're having enough trouble fixing our own dysfunction here. Just my two cents.
The answer is stray out of their politics....Obama's meddling is some of the problems.
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Old 07-08-2014, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Lebanon, OH
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You should see how Mexico treats people who are there illegally and then ask yourself why they should ever expect us to take care of their citizens.
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