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Old 12-19-2007, 11:22 AM
 
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This is no surprise to most of us. When the Mexican government makes this type of admission it certainly makes it much easier to estimate the total number of illegals here. This is literally an invasion.

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MEXICO CITY — The Mexican government reported the results of recent studies on Tuesday showing that 68 percent of Mexicans who migrate or try to migrate to the United States do so without documents and 55 percent of them hire immigrant smugglers.

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Old 12-19-2007, 11:29 AM
 
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This is no surprise to most of us. When the Mexican government makes this type of admission it certainly makes it much easier to estimate the total number of illegals here. This is literally an invasion.
The key to being outraged is that "55% hire illegal smugglers" to get them in.

How many sympathizers on this board have lamented their poverty-stricken state, and said that it's "too expensive" to immigrate legally?

A coyote to get you across the border can cost THOUSANDS of US dollars. That's not exactly "poverty stricken" if you can afford that. Hell, if you can afford that in Mexico, you can start your own business. An immigration lawyer and all attendant fees can ALSO cost thousands. One way (coyote) is quicker, and circumvents laws. One (legally) is slower, but gives you plenty of time to learn how to habla ingles while you're waiting, and means you won't have to "live your life in the shadows."
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Old 12-19-2007, 12:08 PM
 
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The key to being outraged is that "55% hire illegal smugglers" to get them in.

How many sympathizers on this board have lamented their poverty-stricken state, and said that it's "too expensive" to immigrate legally?
You took the words out of my mouth.

I don't expect truth to get in the way of the pro-illegal "argument," however. Illegals from Mexico aren't caucasian. Therefore, they are superior human beings.
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Old 12-19-2007, 12:23 PM
 
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You took the words out of my mouth.

I don't expect truth to get in the way of the pro-illegal "argument," however. Illegals from Mexico aren't caucasian. Therefore, they are superior human beings.
I take it you are being sarcastic.

Mexicans; like Americans are of all ethnicities/races.

That stated; I am definitely anti illegal immigration----------legals are welcome
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Old 12-19-2007, 12:25 PM
 
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Invasion certainly sums it up! I am not a violent person but I'm about ready to arm myself. Apparently the government is not going to protect me.
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Old 12-19-2007, 12:48 PM
 
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I take it you are being sarcastic.
Yes and no.

Yes, as you demonstrate below, my comment is sarcastic.

No, because the pro-illegal "argument" is grounded in racism.

There exists a group mindset, usually classified as being on the far left, which portrays itself as a champion of racial minorities. This mindset is so ingrained in many people that they have become blinded to everything but skin color. As evidenced by a far left web forum I used to visit, even economic status is clouded by race. For example, to many of these people I conversed with, a poor white person is "redneck trailer trash," yet poor racial minorities are seen as victims. Indeed, the word "victim" was commonly used to describe illegal aliens. Once one convinces himself that non-caucasian equals victim, such "victims" are free to behave in any way they choose. From what I could tell, these displays of self-loathing were comfortably executed from ivory towers (surprise!)

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Mexicans; like Americans are of all ethnicities/races.

That stated; I am definitely anti illegal immigration----------legals are welcome
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Old 12-19-2007, 01:03 PM
 
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Yes and no.

Yes, as you demonstrate below, my comment is sarcastic.

No, because the pro-illegal "argument" is grounded in racism.

There exists a group mindset, usually classified as being on the far left, which portrays itself as a champion of racial minorities. This mindset is so ingrained in many people that they have become blinded to everything but skin color. As evidenced by a far left web forum I used to visit, even economic status is clouded by race. For example, to many of these people I conversed with, a poor white person is "redneck trailer trash," yet poor racial minorities are seen as victims. Indeed, the word "victim" was commonly used to describe illegal aliens. Once one convinces himself that non-caucasian equals victim, such "victims" are free to behave in any way they choose. From what I could tell, these displays of self-loathing were comfortably executed from ivory towers (surprise!)
Yes, we can use "white trash" or "white trailer trash" (which are very insulting terms to describe ANY human being), but try something against anyone who is "latino", and you're in big trouble. Like those poor latino LAWBREAKERS who come over our border and steal our benefits. Ooooh......that's so "racist".

Great point you made, well-stated.
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Old 12-19-2007, 02:30 PM
 
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Yes, we can use "white trash" or "white trailer trash" (which are very insulting terms to describe ANY human being), but try something against anyone who is "latino", and you're in big trouble. Like those poor latino LAWBREAKERS who come over our border and steal our benefits. Ooooh......that's so "racist".

Great point you made, well-stated.
Brown trash, black trash...it goes for anyone and it is insulting, but when you see what illegals have done to CA and border states I know of it makes some want to call names at this point of near collapse of society here.
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Old 12-19-2007, 03:36 PM
 
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Of those 7 out of 10, I wonder how many of them worked in Flip-Flop Romney's mansions.
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Old 12-19-2007, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Invasion certainly sums it up! I am not a violent person but I'm about ready to arm myself. Apparently the government is not going to protect me.
The same thought is crossing my mind as well-------and; I do not like keeping firearms around for personal reasons.
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