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Old 07-20-2014, 10:44 AM
 
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The State Dept defines the countries and the yearly allocations.
None of the central American countries are on the State Dept list.

FY13 Refugee Admissions Statistics


You are not looking at the entire picture here.
USCIS is not the sole agency involved.
Exactly, which is why I also quoted DHS. Read my post:
http://www.city-data.com/forum/35729864-post29.html
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Old 07-20-2014, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Exactly, which is why I also quoted DHS. Read my post:
http://www.city-data.com/forum/35729864-post29.html
What is your point here ?

Sure the US approved no refugees in 2013 from central America.
But not because none applied.

None of the central American countries are on the approved State Dept list with allocations.
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Old 07-20-2014, 11:03 AM
 
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What is your point here ?
There seems to be a disagreement that asylees are also designated as refugees. They are. And therefore would be counted as such if the government were actually being honest with us. We all know the government isn't being honest, though.
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Old 07-20-2014, 11:21 AM
 
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There seems to be a disagreement that asylees are also designated as refugees. They are. And therefore would be counted as such if the government were actually being honest with us. We all know the government isn't being honest, though.
Well then we've been violently debating the same side here

And yes, the government is not honest as has been shown with both of us posting reports from various government agencies that tell different stories.

And DHS and HHS also post their own reports with statistics.

As they say..there's lies, damn lies and statistics. And our government is very good with their statistics.
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Old 07-20-2014, 11:45 AM
 
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Well then we've been violently debating the same side here

And yes, the government is not honest as has been shown with both of us posting reports from various government agencies that tell different stories.

And DHS and HHS also post their own reports with statistics.

As they say..there's lies, damn lies and statistics. And our government is very good with their statistics.
That may be why federal agencies state that asylees are refugees:
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"PRWORA established two categories of immigrants: qualified immigrants, including lawful permanent residents (LPRs), refugees, and other protected immigration statuses; and nonqualified immigrants. Nonqualified is not synonymous with unauthorized immigrant status. The group of nonqualified immigrants for public benefit eligibility combines various immigration categories, including lawfully present immigrants such as students and tourists, immigrants in protected statuses such as asylum seekers, and unauthorized immigrants"
Overview of Immigrants' Eligibility for SNAP, TANF, Medicaid, and CHIP: ASPE Issue Brief

Asylum seekers are being categorized as refugees so that they can qualify to receive public assistance benefits such as SNAP, TANF, Medicaid, CHIP, etc.
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Old 07-20-2014, 12:01 PM
 
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That may be why federal agencies state that asylees are refugees:
Overview of Immigrants' Eligibility for SNAP, TANF, Medicaid, and CHIP: ASPE Issue Brief

Asylum seekers are being categorized as refugees so that they can qualify to receive public assistance benefits such as SNAP, TANF, Medicaid, CHIP, etc.
Yes I did catch that in my reading. That qualification opens up all the social welfare programs to them with no waiting time.

And these people come from third world countries with little to no education or skills.
So you know they will be signing up.

Now imagine if Congress decides these kids and "incomplete family units" are all refugees seeking asylum ?

I'm starting to think it's more about them qualifying for welfare benefits then seeking a path to citizenship.
These illegals don't care about voting.
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Old 07-20-2014, 12:18 PM
 
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Yes I did catch that in my reading. That qualification opens up all the social welfare programs to them with no waiting time.

And these people come from third world countries with little to no education or skills.
So you know they will be signing up.

Now imagine if Congress decides these kids and "incomplete family units" are all refugees seeking asylum ?
That's exactly what's happening: multiple federal agencies' positions are that they're refugees applying for asylum (therefore both a refugee and an asylee) = instant qualification for taxpayer funded public assistance benefits such as SNAP, TANF, Medicaid, and CHIP.

Pay up, suckers...
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Old 07-20-2014, 12:36 PM
 
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That's exactly what's happening: multiple federal agencies' positions are that they're refugees applying for asylum (therefore both a refugee and an asylee) = instant qualification for taxpayer funded public assistance benefits such as SNAP, TANF, Medicaid, and CHIP.

Pay up, suckers...
I can see why. Mexico looks good compared to these countries.
Guatemala..less than 30% make to 6th grade if at all.
They are unskilled, uneducated and have only worked in agriculture.

These people aren't even burger flipper, min wage material.
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