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Old 07-25-2014, 07:42 PM
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They're apparently sneaking into Canada, too. A few years back, Calgary started seeing MS-13 gang graffiti. The police there ended up getting in touch with the LAPD, since CA has been seeing this garbage for years. The Canadian cops wanted to know how to deal with these lowlife gang members.

Old 07-25-2014, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Charles22 View Post
My dad has been saying this for decades. These gangs are really narco-terrorists. They're also like cockroaches, but we don't kill them so they come back even stronger.
In many ways, America has blame in this also. Both MS-13 and 18th Street were founded here on American soil in the streets of Los Angeles. The minority melting pot of California is also known worldwide for its gangs that have seem to have travelled thousands of miles away from their origins in Los Angeles county. Many of the original Salvadoran refugees in L.A. were illiterate non-violent people seeking to escape the mounting violence in their home country. But when they landed in L.A., they were exposed to the senseless hyped up gang violence of American inner cities. In fact, MS-13, or Mara Salvatrucha, was originally called the "Mara Salvatrucha Stoners" and they did nothing but listen to heavy metal music and smoke weed. Back then in the early 80's, Mara Salvavtrucha was not considered a gang at all. But the original Cheech and Chong stoner MS-13 of the early 80's were bullied by the tough hyper-violent Mexican gangs in L.A. who know nothing but running prostitution rings, drive by shootings, knifings and turf warfare, so the initially non-violent stoners of early MS-13 had no choice but to adapt to their surroundings and fight back:


To this day, these gangs operate no different from any California Sureno gang. The O.G.'s who founded these gangs earned their stripes in L.A. Thousands of MS-13/18th Street members in Central America and across America have never actually been to California, yet they proudly wear L.A. Dodgers jerseys and hats like they were born and raised in East L.A. Gang bangers in El Salvador and Honduras revere L.A. as a mecca. I've met some seemingly normal young guys, who I didn't know where MS-13 members at the time, in my neighborhood who were very interested in the fact I was from California and wanted to know more because they had never been there before themselves.

It's also greedy businesses fault for willingly hiring illegal immigrants over Americans because illegals can be paid below minimum wage under the table. If businesses could not hire illegal immigrants, they would stop coming. Deportation practices also helped spread MS-13 and 18th Street all across Central America which has caused these gangs to pop up pretty much everywhere in the United States through illegal immigration.

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Old 07-25-2014, 08:13 PM
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Originally Posted by LunaticVillage View Post
In the 80's and early 90's, Salvadoran refugees of civil war founded gangs like MS-13 for protection from the ubiquitous Mexican gangs in Los Angeles. In the mid 90's, our government made the dumb decision to start deporting thousands of these gang bangers back to El Salvador. Since then, gangs like MS-13 and 18th Street have spread like wildfire throughout Central America. The impoverished disenfranchised youth of El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala gravitated toward these gangs because it gave these lost children of violence a sense of identity and purpose. Gang violence in Central America has effectively bridged the gap from the civil war era of the 80's in continuing the senseless cycle of gruesome violence that has plagued the region for decades. Today, Central America is the most violent region of the world.

Central American ganglands spark child refugee crisis - Eureka Street

MS-13 and 18th Street are huge influential groups in Central America that sow widespread violence and murder. For years, MS-13 and 18th Street have been coming to different major American cities far from East L.A. and setting up shop in formerly quite suburban and rural communities across America where they never existed 20 years prior and reaping the same killing and raping that they do where ever they go. I live in Maryland, which is a sanctuary state for illegal immigrants. Not coincidentally, the Maryland suburbs outside of DC in Montgomery and Prince Georges Counties are known to be one of the national strongholds for MS-13 and 18th Street. While these groups operate below the radar in most of suburban Maryland, they do their business of killing and raping out here very often.

Police arrest 6 for murder of Amos Jones in Suitland, including several MS-13 gang members | WJLA.com

As Illegals Flow Across Border, MS-13 Members in MD Charged with Violent Crimes

I live closer to Baltimore, which always has had a much smaller MS-13/18th Street presence, but that is quickly starting to change in my formerly quiet suburban town of about 100K. MS-13/18th Street cliques have been popping up in apartment complexes across the town where I live. Their graffiti has become more ubiquitous and they have been trying to intimidate or possibly recruit any young male who even looks Latino in seedy local neighborhood dive bars. From what I see, their numbers continue to grow out here. In the near future, many areas of this town will no longer be safe as many murders are yet to happen because gangsters from rival gangs keep moving here. The police out here do nothing to stop them from moving in. Most of them come here and work low-paid jobs in restaurants, warehouses, construction etc. and continue to depress wages and take jobs from Americans. But when they clock out at work, its back to life as a gang banger selling drugs, extorting average citizens, killing people and raping women.

As it stands, MS-13 is believed to have cliques in every state in America on the mainland. These gangs are highly organized and frequently contact other members and leaders from El Salvador to Los Angeles to Maryland. MS-13 and 18th Street have even began to set up shop in the vast expanses of rural middle America even recruiting young poor white males and taking advantage of the sparse police force in these areas.

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In maybe even less than ten years, I can imagine MS-13 and 18th coming to be a dominant force in America. America is doing nothing to stop the flow of gang bangers into this country. Unless there is widespread bounty hunter killings of these gang bangers, their numbers will continue to grow nationwide.
Originally Posted by LunaticVillage View Post
In the article I posted, they killed a regular American black guy in PG County, which is a predominantly black county in Maryland. Usually, MS-13 and 18th Street kill other gang members or people who they simply assume are rival gang members. These gangs shoot first, ask questions later. The end result is that innocent American people who have nothing to do with gangs, often get killed by the ruthless gangs just because their wearing the wrong team's hat or colors:

San Fransanity: Illegal Alien MS-13 Killer In Daly City Gets Fed Charges Tacked On; Why Not In Ramos' Case?

MS-13 gang member yelled 'the beast has eaten!' after murder of man he mistook for a Blood: witness - NY Daily News

People who think MS-13 and 18th Street are not a problem are delusional. Nowhere is off limits for these gangs. Unlike the average turf gang in any American inner city, MS-13 and 18th Street know no boundaries. I live in the third richest county in America in Howard County, Maryland and MS-13 is out here. Even the baddest apples from the predominantly black inner city change their behavior upon moving to suburbia out here, but not MS-13 and 18th Street. Their whole motto is that they "rape, kill and control" wherever they are. Even wealthier counties in Northern Virginia have even worse problems with these gangs in terms of regularity of violence. Northern Virginia has become a stronghold for MS-13 since the construction boom following the government expansion and gentrification of DC in the early 2000's.

Virginia Has Turned Into Stronghold for Hyper-Violent MS-13

American businesses keep hiring illegal immigrant gangsters because they work harder, longer and for cheaper than any blue-blooded American. These gangs already pretty much monopolize the crime rate in entire cities in Central America. San Pedro Sula in Honduras is statistically the most violent city on earth because of MS-13 and 18th Street.

San Pedro Sula Is The Most Violent City On Earth [PHOTOS] - Business Insider

MS-13 has transformed formerly quiet suburban areas from Northern Virginia to suburban Long Island into places where people get raped and murdered regularly:

Authorities Make Strides Against MS-13, Long Island's 'Baddest' Gang - WNYC

I expect things to get only worse because Uncle Sam does nothing to stop thousands of gang bangers from coming to America every year.

What is really sick is leftist claim we are the problem for being this issue to light, and or claim it is not happening..

Deport leftist along with their illegal pets..
Old 07-25-2014, 08:32 PM
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What the average person in the UAS will notice and be effected by is kidnapping.

There has been some problem on the USA side of the boarder in the last few years already.
Old 07-25-2014, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by gunlover View Post
What is really sick is leftist claim we are the problem for being this issue to light, and or claim it is not happening..

Deport leftist along with their illegal pets..
Deportation has already proven to make the problem worse. If 'Murica had never deported MS-13 members back to El Salvador en masse, MS-13 would have probably stayed in California. But now we have tens of thousands of Central American gang bangers nationwide donning blue L.A. Dodgers caps.

The problem is that MS-13 and 18th Street are violent wherever they go. In America, we have socially engineered inner city hoodlums to only wreak havoc in designated run-down economically blasted inner city areas as a means of population control for impoverished minority groups. The type of violence that is commonplace in the average American inner city does not penetrate into wealthy outer ring suburbia and into quiet rural areas. You don't complain about inner city violence because it doesn't effect your community. But once that L.A. gang violence designed to keep minorities divided amongst themselves in the killing fields of California invades your quiet East Coast suburb or West Bumblef#ck, Middle American town, it becomes a problem that was created entirely in a third world vacuum that has nothing to do with the culture of good ol' 'Murica. Hmmm?

But Central American gangs have found a niche in setting up shop in the suburbs and rural areas because these areas are not ready to deal with their relentless cutthroat violence. MS-13 and 18th Street never try to take over inner city black neighborhoods because thugs in the ghetto are armed to the teeth and are just as willing to kill as any MS-13/18th Street gang banger. The only black inner cities to be taken over by such gangs are usually in Southern California where gentrification, high crime and poor schools has caused thousands of blacks to leave formerly predominantly black areas like Compton over the decades. But native blacks far outnumber fresh-off-the-border Latinos in many black inner cities.

In urban areas with large American born Latino populations, there are large gangs made up of these native born American Latinos who are constantly fighting a bloody holy war to rid the streets of MS-13 and 18th Street; the Norteno vs. Sureno conflict in Northern California immediately comes to mind.

But MS-13 and 18th Street purposely come to wealthy outer ring suburbia where they know the police are not used to dealing with stuff like murders and high level drug trafficking. Where I live, the police force is made up of a bunch of sissy skinny poorly aging little suburban frat boys in their 20's. The police where I live are afraid of MS-13 and 18th Street and would rather antagonize average citizens than go after these gang bangers.

Since MS-13 and 18th Street prefer to set up shop where no gangs have ever existed before in the suburbs and countryside, there is literally nothing to stop them from growing more and more powerful. This is a long-term trend that will develop over decades unless something is done to deter it. As these gangs continue to spread below the border and more illegals continue to come to America, the problem will only worsen. America outside of the inner cities is not a violent place in comparison to the blood soaked regions in Central America. Although we Americans are more armed than anywhere on the planet, are we going to have the balls to use all that firepower when the time comes? Probably not. As it stands, Uncle Sam is fighting hard to take away our right to even have guns as average citizens. The average MS-13 banger feels he has nothing to lose and is willing to kill at the drop of a hat. Going jail for a MS-13/18th Street member only means that he will be reunited with his homies in jail and being deported only means he will go home for a short time and probably sneak back into the U.S. in no time. The average American does not think they have nothing to lose and our oppressive government seeks nothing but to put us in lifelong debt, throw us in jail and deprive us of decent jobs if we make even a slip in a judgement.

In some ways, it seems it doesn't even pay to be American anymore. I see illegals come here and get jobs like its nothing speaking little to no English while Americans waste their time unemployed frittering away years of the prime of their lives and racking up tens of thousands of dollars in debt attaining a worthless college "education", graduating waiting for years to get a cushy office job paying 150K+ a year to surf internet porn all day; a "job" that doesn't exist. By the time MS-13 and 18th Street take over America, most Americans will be literally too fat and lazy to do anything about if trends continue.

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Old 07-25-2014, 10:54 PM
Location: Lost in Texas
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If you folks think american gang bangers are bad, you aint seen nothin yet..
Old 07-25-2014, 11:00 PM
Location: Out in the Badlands
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Old 07-25-2014, 11:24 PM
Location: Houston, TX
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If you want this narco business to stop and rid of all the problems associated with it, STOP USING ILLEGAL DRUGS.

Simple solution.

Crime is at all time low in most cities. So stop with the fear mongering people. No one believes it but you.

Have a great day.
Old 07-25-2014, 11:37 PM
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Uh huh. Yup. Everybody in the entire world needs to stop using illegal drugs. How are YOU going to make that happen? And what makes you think that "ALL AMERICANS" use illegal drugs?
Old 07-25-2014, 11:46 PM
Location: Houston, TX
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Originally Posted by BOS2IAD View Post
Uh huh. Yup. Everybody in the entire world needs to stop using illegal drugs. How are YOU going to make that happen? And what makes you think that "ALL AMERICANS" use illegal drugs?
LOL. Did I say all Americans use drugs..come on!!

America is the LARGEST consumer of illegal drugs. Why? Because we can afford to!!

Everyone is complaining about narcos, drug dealers, gang bangers...who all live off illegal drug profts, but nobody wants to stop buying the stuff!

So....the whining needs to stop and people need to come up with solutions. We know what the problem is. And the answer begins with you!

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