U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Illegal Immigration
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 07-27-2014, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Oak Park, IL
405 posts, read 359,783 times
Reputation: 315

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mach50 View Post
I love that this is a Democrat issue when it was your boy Republican Reagan that used the same solution to this problem.

He also did nothing to protect the border or stop the inflow of illegal immigrants.



here come the excuses....."Reagan said it was a mistake"...but he said verbatim:



Earth To Conservatives: Immigrant Amnesty Is A Conservative Policy - Forbes
It is. THAT bozo was a disgrace to the office. Of course the Dems did nothing either and are now trying to take advantage. Let's be fair here.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 07-27-2014, 10:15 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
7,069 posts, read 5,101,259 times
Reputation: 4067
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mach50 View Post
Still a fact that cannot be denied. A conservative policy!

It's funny how this is such a fact based forum until the facts go against your agenda then it becomes an excuse based forum.
Ok - Eisenhower's administration implemented "operation *******" to severely curb illegal immigration from Mexico in the 1950's - so that is conservative policy.

The fact Reagan did something 30 plus years ago that many view as a mistake does not justify a democrat now wanting to do the same thing by executive order several magnitudes worse.

That's just stupid logic.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-27-2014, 10:31 AM
 
20,611 posts, read 12,342,384 times
Reputation: 5895
Quote:
Originally Posted by MUTGR View Post
Ok - Eisenhower's administration implemented "operation *******" to severely curb illegal immigration from Mexico in the 1950's - so that is conservative policy.

The fact Reagan did something 30 plus years ago that many view as a mistake does not justify a democrat now wanting to do the same thing by executive order several magnitudes worse.

That's just stupid logic.
Agreed. Obama's def the POTUS in 2014 so it's on him. Not Bush 43. Not Clinton. Not Bush Senior. Not Reagan and so on.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-27-2014, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Denver
9,068 posts, read 15,505,802 times
Reputation: 5289
Quote:
Originally Posted by MUTGR View Post
Ok - Eisenhower's administration implemented "operation *******" to severely curb illegal immigration from Mexico in the 1950's - so that is conservative policy.

The fact Reagan did something 30 plus years ago that many view as a mistake does not justify a democrat now wanting to do the same thing by executive order several magnitudes worse.

That's just stupid logic.
It's not stupid logic, immigration hasn't changed in 30 years. The GOP refuses to work with Obama...the "do nothing" Republicans strike again unlike the Dems with Reagan.

Obama has no other alternative but to act alone and re-implement the Reagan policy.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-27-2014, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Denver
9,068 posts, read 15,505,802 times
Reputation: 5289
Quote:
Originally Posted by Packard fan View Post
Agreed. Obama's def the POTUS in 2014 so it's on him. Not Bush 43. Not Clinton. Not Bush Senior. Not Reagan and so on.
If Republicans weren't OBSTRUCTIONISTS, he wouldn't have to take action on his own. Congress is a joke, particularly the House GOP. They simply cannot do their jobs. They're so stupid that they can't see that to do their jobs, compromise is needed.

Let the GOP and their constituents tell it, NO compromise should take place. I cannot believe all of the people on this forum who are mad because the President wants to do something that Congress can't, it should be a positive reaction not a negative one. You all are brainwashed.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-27-2014, 11:16 AM
 
31,921 posts, read 14,699,387 times
Reputation: 8514
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mach50 View Post
It's not stupid logic, immigration hasn't changed in 30 years. The GOP refuses to work with Obama...the "do nothing" Republicans strike again unlike the Dems with Reagan.

Obama has no other alternative but to act alone.
Illegal immigration has increased significantly from 30 years ago. Obama wants to implement another amnesty that was a failure first time around because all it did was to encourage more illegal immigration. We have at the very least quadruple the number since Reagan signed the last one. If the Republicans refusing to go along with another amnesty is "doing nothing" then I'm all for it because it solves nothing. Obama has other alternatives but he doesn't want them because they don't include deporting illegal aliens back to their countries and really securing our border this time around. Even the proposed e-verify wouldn't go into law for 5 years and it would only be applied to new hires not illegal aliens already working here. We want real solutions not another band aid on this problem.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-27-2014, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
86,093 posts, read 70,086,609 times
Reputation: 27525
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mach50 View Post
If Republicans weren't OBSTRUCTIONISTS, he wouldn't have to take action on his own. Congress is a joke, particularly the House GOP. They simply cannot do their jobs. They're so stupid that they can't see that to do their jobs, compromise is needed.

Let the GOP and their constituents tell it, NO compromise should take place. I cannot believe all of the people on this forum who are mad because the President wants to do something that Congress can't, it should be a positive reaction not a negative one. You all are brainwashed.
Congress never had any intention of turning them all into refugees seeking asylum.
Congress never had any intention of sending planes down there to fly them to the US.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-27-2014, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Denver
9,068 posts, read 15,505,802 times
Reputation: 5289
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldglory View Post
Illegal immigration has increased significantly from 30 years ago. Obama wants to implement another amnesty that was a failure first time around because all it did was to encourage more illegal immigration. We have at the very least quadruple the number since Reagan signed the last one. If the Republicans refusing to go along with another amnesty is "doing nothing" then I'm all for it because it solves nothing. Obama has other alternatives but he doesn't want them because they don't include deporting illegal aliens back to their countries and really securing our border this time around. Even the proposed e-verify wouldn't go into law for 5 years and it would only be applied to new hires not illegal aliens already working here. We want real solutions not another band aid on this problem.
Nobody is bringing a real solution. Not Reagan, Not Bush x2, Not McCain, Not Romney..etc. This is definitely not on Obama for doing SOMETHING.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-27-2014, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Denver
9,068 posts, read 15,505,802 times
Reputation: 5289
Quote:
Originally Posted by HappyTexan View Post
Congress never had any intention of turning them all into refugees seeking asylum.
Congress never had any intention of sending planes down there to fly them to the US.
That's because Congress has no intentions AT ALL to deal with this...ever. ESPECIALLY under Obama!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-27-2014, 12:51 PM
 
11,584 posts, read 5,559,958 times
Reputation: 9917
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mach50 View Post
It's not stupid logic, immigration hasn't changed in 30 years. The GOP refuses to work with Obama...the "do nothing" Republicans strike again unlike the Dems with Reagan.

Obama has no other alternative but to act alone and re-implement the Reagan policy.
Well...I, for one, am glad that the republicans are refusing to work with Obama when it comes to amnesty for illegals.

Did you know that when GW Bush, a republican in case you didn't know, pushed for amnesty, the switchboard on Capitol Hill, along with the fax machines crashed? That happened because people were letting them all know loudly and clearly that they didn't want amnesty for illegals.

As for republicans being "do nothing" --- Harry Reid has continually refused to bring house bills up for a vote in the senate.

Haven't you figured it out yet? Neither party is composed of saints.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Illegal Immigration
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2018, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top