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Old 07-30-2014, 06:56 AM
 
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I know that polls change on a daily basis but this poll seems to point out that the change for those opposed to illegal immigration and Obama is losing support on his illegal immigration initiative. People are understanding that Obama using "refugee" status is merely a ruse to get around building a democratic voting base. He also could amend the 2008 Bush bill if he was willing to put together a proposal and negotiate with republicans. He has yet to make any suggestions to amending it and keeps telling the republicans to come up with a proposal. He will laugh at anything they propose because they are not going to give him what he wants.

He let the horse out of the barn allowing all these illegals in and it would be one hell of a challenge to round them up after they were released.

52% opposition. There has to be a few democrats in that number. Did it take something like this for dems to even think rather than just go along as they have been for 5-1/2 years? Is this too close to home for them seeing as how illegals may end up in their backyard and their schools? Are democrats finally waking up and seeing the destruction of America by Obama?

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The new poll found 53 percent of Americans believe the United States has no moral obligation to offer asylum to people who escape violence or political persecution, while 44 percent believe it has that responsibility.

And more than half, 52 percent, say children who say they are fleeing gang violence in Central America should not be treated as refugees, while 46 percent say they should.

To qualify for asylum, applicants must prove they suffered persecution or have a well-founded fear of persecution on grounds of race, religion, nationality, membership in a social group or political opinion. A refugee must demonstrate the same but, unlike an asylum seeker, seeks protection while still outside the United States.
Poll: US illegal immigration concerns rising

How does a 5 year old "prove" eligibility to be a refugee? Does the mother speak on the child's behalf?
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Old 07-30-2014, 06:59 AM
 
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I know that polls change on a daily basis but this poll seems to point out that the change for those opposed to illegal immigration and Obama is losing support on his illegal immigration initiative. People are understanding that Obama using "refugee" status is merely a ruse to get around building a democratic voting base. He also could amend the 2008 Bush bill if he was willing to put together a proposal and negotiate with republicans. He has yet to make any suggestions to amending it and keeps telling the republicans to come up with a proposal. He will laugh at anything they propose because they are not going to give him what he wants.

He let the horse out of the barn allowing all these illegals in and it would be one hell of a challenge to round them up after they were released.

52% opposition. There has to be a few democrats in that number. Did it take something like this for dems to even think rather than just go along as they have been for 5-1/2 years? Is this too close to home for them seeing as how illegals may end up in their backyard and their schools? Are democrats finally waking up and seeing the destruction of America by Obama?



Poll: US illegal immigration concerns rising

How does a 5 year old "prove" eligibility to be a refugee? Does the mother speak on the child's behalf?
They likely will be assigned an attorney.
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Old 07-30-2014, 08:44 AM
 
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I know that polls change on a daily basis but this poll seems to point out that the change for those opposed to illegal immigration and Obama is losing support on his illegal immigration initiative. People are understanding that Obama using "refugee" status is merely a ruse to get around building a democratic voting base. He also could amend the 2008 Bush bill if he was willing to put together a proposal and negotiate with republicans. He has yet to make any suggestions to amending it and keeps telling the republicans to come up with a proposal. He will laugh at anything they propose because they are not going to give him what he wants.

He let the horse out of the barn allowing all these illegals in and it would be one hell of a challenge to round them up after they were released.

52% opposition. There has to be a few democrats in that number. Did it take something like this for dems to even think rather than just go along as they have been for 5-1/2 years? Is this too close to home for them seeing as how illegals may end up in their backyard and their schools? Are democrats finally waking up and seeing the destruction of America by Obama?



Poll: US illegal immigration concerns rising

How does a 5 year old "prove" eligibility to be a refugee? Does the mother speak on the child's behalf?
52 percent against amnesty and this coming from a "lib" group like Yahoo?? IMHO more and more people are waking up to the danger of illegal aliens and now are pissed. I woke up a few years back.
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Old 07-30-2014, 09:53 AM
 
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They likely will be assigned an attorney.
Well they should take each age group and have them appear before one judge, have one attorney, and then they can be sent on their way. They all have the same story so why do it one at a time?
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Old 07-30-2014, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Congress is getting an earful from everyone AGAINST these illegals and FOR immediate deportation. I've written my Senators, Representatives, and the WH - and intend to keep doing so.

Rep. O'Rourke (D) from TX yesterday on C-Span was truly protesting way too much on the "plight" of these "refugees." Clearly, public opinion is against this and growing. Every statement he made was the "party line" through which a factual bullet hole could be blown. 95% of the C-Span callers - including Democrats - want these illegals sent back pronto - and NO MONEY spent.

And, I am soooo tired of the "We are a nation of immigrants." BS - we are a nation of LEGAL immigrants - who supported themselves and didn't game the system - not freeloaders hoping to bring in all their extended families/freeloaders.

The entire situation defies common sense. But, sadly, our govt hasn't made any sense for decades.
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Old 07-30-2014, 03:43 PM
 
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They likely will be assigned an attorney.
Are their court cases going to drag on like Anna Nicole Smith's daughter's
What a field day for the pockets of would be (should be) unemployed lawyers.
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Old 07-30-2014, 03:47 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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52 percent against amnesty and this coming from a "lib" group like Yahoo?? IMHO more and more people are waking up to the danger of illegal aliens and now are pissed. I woke up a few years back.

But at least a few years back, you saw the dangers and the turmoil brought to ths US because of illegals.

Problem now is with those that who won't see the dangers and push this mess under a rug, like it does not exist.

Opposition ought to be with those very people who are at the forefront, of this mess and could care less about the feelings of all Americans.

This is like a bully who has got to have his way at all costs, and like stick it to the other side, at all cost.

We have a pig headed stubborn mule for a President. It is like as if one side right now, has got it branded in their heads, that they are going to win, and to hell with American Citizens and how we all feel.

I resent this, and made calls yesterday to the W.H. to my local politicians and made my voice heard. Not that it is going to count, but more people need to do this.
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Old 07-30-2014, 04:06 PM
 
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Only 52%? Like everything else, Americans do not have consensus. This issue is going to be a drag on.

Illegal immigration won't stop until most people come to a consensus.
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Old 07-30-2014, 04:07 PM
 
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Applying for asylum is one thing -
Breaking laws to invade is another.

If you break laws to enter, you are barred from asylum. Period.
It would be foolish for any government to reward those who violate its laws.
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Old 07-30-2014, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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It would be foolish for any government to reward those who violate its laws.
But....but....but..... we have a foolish government. The government in this country is beyond making any sense, much less being effective. From corporate crooks to illegals - it's always all about the money (and the votes). Govt FOR the people - as we define that term - is nonexistent. Too many people, too many factions, too many points of view, too many regional peculiarities, too much information, too many special interests, too many lies, etc., etc., etc.
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