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Old 12-24-2007, 10:18 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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AND there are those that have stolen identities and use them to appy for benefits. Some states have it set up where the application is done over the internet and they have phone interviews, how easy that must be when you have stolen documents.
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Old 12-25-2007, 07:48 AM
 
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Even if they are legal on a green card what are they doing on welfare and food stamps?? If they can't or wont support themselves why are they allowed in are country? If they can't support themselves and all their anchors deport them and help the hard working American taxpayer for a change
You got that right Junkman. In fact, what the hell is any new immigrant collecting any kind of benefits? They should be self-supporting. What the hell happened to the sponsors anyway? This country has gooten to laz when it comes to immigrants, even the legal ones. If they can't support their own asses then they should be sent back to their own country.
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Old 12-25-2007, 10:30 AM
 
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You got that right Junkman. In fact, what the hell is any new immigrant collecting any kind of benefits? They should be self-supporting. What the hell happened to the sponsors anyway? This country has gooten to laz when it comes to immigrants, even the legal ones. If they can't support their own asses then they should be sent back to their own country.
Sponsors for the most part are a joke. All it really amounts to is that the sponsor's income is included with their immigrant's income when evaluating the immigrant for means tested programs.

The way they get around it -- there are usually a number of over-18 year old relatives, so to bring in the beloved grannie, they find the relative with the lowest income and since she will earn $0, it's usually not a problem getting her on SSDI, food stamps, Medicaid even if the rest of the relatives are physicians, lawyers, and other high income types.
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Old 12-25-2007, 10:33 AM
 
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AND there are those that have stolen identities and use them to appy for benefits. Some states have it set up where the application is done over the internet and they have phone interviews, how easy that must be when you have stolen documents.
When amnesties are given, there is no way to check the applications -- a woman here was amnestied with 4 different names and each one was getting here welfare benefits. She was buying up land -- with other names -- selling the food stamps and apartments she rented out using housing subsidies of some of her aliases.

The permission to use stolen social security numbers makes it great for all those who would commit fraud. The government knows full well all this is going on but does not put a stop to it. I don't think they same laxness applies to American citizens however.
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Old 12-25-2007, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Sponsors for the most part are a joke. All it really amounts to is that the sponsor's income is included with their immigrant's income when evaluating the immigrant for means tested programs.

The way they get around it -- there are usually a number of over-18 year old relatives, so to bring in the beloved grannie, they find the relative with the lowest income and since she will earn $0, it's usually not a problem getting her on SSDI, food stamps, Medicaid even if the rest of the relatives are physicians, lawyers, and other high income types.
If nothing else; I suspect that sponsorship would filter out many of not most questionable immigrants thinning down the 'herd'.
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Old 12-25-2007, 10:47 AM
 
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If nothing else; I suspect that sponsorship would filter out many of not most questionable immigrants thinning down the 'herd'.
I think it should be employer only sponsorship and with the employer agreeing to pay legal wages and provide standard benefits, paid employee health insurance, workman's comp and so on.

Too often the families arrive and then start bringing in all their indigent relatives -- and not-so indigent elderly -- but they don't wish to provide them a health insurance policy or pick up all their costs so it becomes the taxpayers' responsibility to do all that. A sizeable number of people on SSDI are immigrants who have never worked here in this country.
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Old 12-25-2007, 12:38 PM
 
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Sponsors for the most part are a joke. All it really amounts to is that the sponsor's income is included with their immigrant's income when evaluating the immigrant for means tested programs.

The way they get around it -- there are usually a number of over-18 year old relatives, so to bring in the beloved grannie, they find the relative with the lowest income and since she will earn $0, it's usually not a problem getting her on SSDI, food stamps, Medicaid even if the rest of the relatives are physicians, lawyers, and other high income types.
That is all wrong too. They should cut off any benefits to any legal immigrant unless they have contributed to the tax base somehow.
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Old 12-25-2007, 03:38 PM
 
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That is all wrong too. They should cut off any benefits to any legal immigrant unless they have contributed to the tax base somehow.
Look at this job posing -- in Michigan -- far from the border.

For Spanish speaking mental health workers to work with Spanish speaking immigrants with serious and persistent mental illness.

I spoke once to someone in another city in the Midwest why there are so many Mexicans there in need of mental illness treatment (free from the government of course) because you wouldn't think mentally ill are being brought in to do the low-wage hard work jobs and he said they are brought by family members -- who of course don't expect to pay for them themselves. Many are actually brought in legally so the taxpayers can pay for them.

http://www.latpro.com/jobs/1730827.html

Must be bi-lingual in Spanish (speak and read). One year of professional experience working with adults experiencing serious and persistent mental illness required.
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Old 12-26-2007, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Cumberland Co., TN
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Count your blessings it only looks like little mexico on food stamp day. Where I am in TN its little mexico everyday.
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Old 12-26-2007, 08:19 PM
 
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Hey, I Lived In La County In The 70's. If You Wanted A Job In Social Service Or Gov't,ie, Mental Health, Welfare,probation,dmv,etc, Spanish Speaking People Got Preference. Spanish Speaking Recordings Were In Place In Most Gov't And Social Service Offices',this Is Not A New Problem. It Is New To Some States, But Calif. Has Been Dealing With This A Long Time.most Of The State Is Unrecognizable From The Way It Was In The Early 70's.for The Average Person Trying To Get A Decent Paying Job ,coming From Out Of State, I Would Think It Would Be Tough,considering All The Crime,competition,crowding And Over Inflated Prices For Housing...
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