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Old 08-06-2014, 02:43 AM
 
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DREAMers Erika Andiola & Cesar Vargas confront Steve King in Okoboji, Iowa for trying to end DACA - YouTube

Steve Did a good job of talking to these people and they just keep playing the victim card. They just don't get the message.
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Old 08-06-2014, 07:22 AM
 
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DREAMers Erika Andiola & Cesar Vargas confront Steve King in Okoboji, Iowa for trying to end DACA - YouTube

Steve Did a good job of talking to these people and they just keep playing the victim card. They just don't get the message.
That's a new one. You justify your mother's illegal presence in the US because she was married to a wife-beater?? The "excuses" just keep getting better and better.

Steve did a good job, but they refuse to listen to someone who knows the law and wants the laws upheld, while they demand that he work on changing the laws to accommodate them.
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Old 08-06-2014, 07:35 AM
 
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That's a new one. You justify your mother's illegal presence in the US because she was married to a wife-beater?? The "excuses" just keep getting better and better.

Steve did a good job, but they refuse to listen to someone who knows the law and wants the laws upheld, while they demand that he work on changing the laws to accommodate them.
Not only that but they are rude and interrupt a congressman while eating again. They did that with Boehner while he was eating at a restaurant also. It's all about them and their needs. Nothing else matters I guess including showing some common courtesy.
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Old 08-06-2014, 07:55 AM
 
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I don't think there's any way to get through to people like this. They want what they want and they are not going to be persuaded by logic and reason; it's too emotional for them. It woukd have been a good start if they could have stipulated to the points Rep. King was making.

I do have empathy for some of tese kids who were brought here as children. But, it's troubling that they seem to completely absolve their parents for putting them in this position and demand that we change our laws to accommodate their unfortunate circumstances. A little less arrogance and a little more humility would go a long way.
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Old 08-06-2014, 09:08 AM
 
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I don't think there's any way to get through to people like this. They want what they want and they are not going to be persuaded by logic and reason; it's too emotional for them. It woukd have been a good start if they could have stipulated to the points Rep. King was making.

I do have empathy for some of tese kids who were brought here as children. But, it's troubling that they seem to completely absolve their parents for putting them in this position and demand that we change our laws to accommodate their unfortunate circumstances. A little less arrogance and a little more humility would go a long way.
I so agree with you. Their demands and entitlement attitudes just hardens people towards them. They think they should just be able to walk up to our congressmen and interrupt their lunches and business with their demands and that is just plain rude.
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Old 08-06-2014, 03:12 PM
 
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It is clear that these 2 DACA people were raised without a moral compass. Plus it was really galling to hear the guy talk about the US and call it "my country". Get a clue, kid---this is not your country.

BTW, once these kids turned 18 1/2, they are then considered to be adults and therefore out of status. It's up to them to adjust their status. Instead, they both refused to do anything about it and now think that they are entitled to stay here.

By being here, they have stolen a seat at a college that should have gone to an American citizen, legal permanent resident or foreign student.

Meanwhile, the kid whose parents didn't sneak in here but stayed in, for example, Mexico grows up and decides that he wants to go to a US state college. He has to apply for admission to the college of his choice and once accepted, has to get a foreign student visa. Not only that, he has to pay out-of-state rates. How is it fair to him that these despicable illegals get to stay here and get DACA?

Good for Steve King! We need more politicians like him who are courageous and have a spine!
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Old 08-06-2014, 03:21 PM
 
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Well this is what happens when we have a President telling them and anyone else who will listen that they are entitled to a free pass.
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Old 08-06-2014, 03:26 PM
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Yes it rude to interrupt someone while eating...

But why ask someone who obviously speaks English "do you understand the English language?" like 5 times... that's even more rude and he basically set the tone that he will condescend to them and did.

Obviously these kids are emotional and stuff like that just fuels them.

These dreamers weren't well prepared mentally.
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Old 08-06-2014, 03:47 PM
 
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Yes it rude to interrupt someone while eating...

But why ask someone who obviously speaks English "do you understand the English language?" like 5 times... that's even more rude and he basically set the tone that he will condescend to them and did.

Obviously these kids are emotional and stuff like that just fuels them.

These dreamers weren't well prepared mentally.
Well perhaps he was making a statement that they don't understand our laws in plain English. Don't care what fuels them. They obviously don't care about our emotions and how we feel about an illegal invasion of our country that fuels us to contempt.
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Old 08-06-2014, 03:52 PM
 
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Yes it rude to interrupt someone while eating...

But why ask someone who obviously speaks English "do you understand the English language?" like 5 times... that's even more rude and he basically set the tone that he will condescend to them and did.

Obviously these kids are emotional and stuff like that just fuels them.

These dreamers weren't well prepared mentally.
He asked "Do you understand the English language?" because he asked them politely to give him a chance to respond but the woman kept running her mouth and interrupting him.

How did he "condescend" to them? As far as I could tell, he was trying to tell them where he stood on this issue and trying to make them understand that they were here illegally as were their parents. How is that being "condescending"?

This country owes these DACA kids absolutely nothing.
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