U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Illegal Immigration
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 12-26-2007, 07:27 PM
 
Location: CA Coast
1,900 posts, read 1,706,920 times
Reputation: 350

Advertisements

Your argument is irrelevant. The point is that those who some how consider the actions of America to be "aside" from history are simply wrong. America is to some extent reaping the crop of its actions.

Those who feel that illegal immigrations is somehow the fault of "liberal politicians" are incredibly wrong.

The reasons for illegal immigration have nothing to do with domestic politics and everything to do with economics. That is the economics of America, from which you benefit.

If you truly want no illegal aliens in America then you must do your part and sever yourself economically from all industries that use illegal labor, you must boycott, but while you are doing this, don't for a minute believe that this nation is some how apart from or better than the rest of the nations of this world.

Regarding this line in particular;
Quote:
This isn't 'American Idol' and if we have to do things that make us 'unpopular' in order to prevent our country from deteriorating into a Third World hell hole
I have only the vaguest idea what American Idol is, and what America does that makes us unpopular has little to do with immigration policy and everything to do with an imperial militaristic foreign policy.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 12-26-2007, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
1,459 posts, read 4,040,936 times
Reputation: 876
Quote:
Originally Posted by ArizonaBear View Post
The more the hammer is coming down on the illegals; the thicker the Trolls seem to be getting.

Oh well--------us American patriots will prevail
The trolls are ganging up on us AB. LOL
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-26-2007, 07:45 PM
 
3,712 posts, read 5,709,656 times
Reputation: 1285
Quote:
Originally Posted by greatbasinguide View Post
Your argument is irrelevant. The point is that those who some how consider the actions of America to be "aside" from history are simply wrong. America is to some extent reaping the crop of its actions.

Those who feel that illegal immigrations is somehow the fault of "liberal politicians" are incredibly wrong.

The reasons for illegal immigration have nothing to do with domestic politics and everything to do with economics. That is the economics of America, from which you benefit.
This is your opinion only. Which carries no more weight than the opinion of anybody else.

Quote:
If you truly want no illegal aliens in America then you must do your part and sever yourself economically from all industries that use illegal labor, you must boycott, but while you are doing this, don't for a minute believe that this nation is some how apart from or better than the rest of the nations of this world.
You don't tell me what to do. I have already stated that I do not care if the rest of the world likes us or not.

Quote:
Regarding this line in particular; I have only the vaguest idea what American Idol is, and what America does that makes us unpopular has little to do with immigration policy and everything to do with an imperial militaristic foreign policy.
I do not care if we are unpopular for whatever reason. Or even no reason at all.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-26-2007, 07:55 PM
 
Location: CA Coast
1,900 posts, read 1,706,920 times
Reputation: 350
Quote:
I do not care if we are unpopular for whatever reason. Or even no reason at all.
You know of no Americans killed by people who do not like us?

Quote:
You don't tell me what to do. I have already stated that I do not care if the rest of the world likes us or not.
No problem, but do not whine about the problem if you are part of it.

Quote:
This is your opinion only. Which carries no more weight than the opinion of anybody else.
No my dear, it is fact. simple economic fact, which a good five minute look at the economics of Capitalist labor would show you.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-26-2007, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
21,148 posts, read 36,615,542 times
Reputation: 3785
Andreabeth: let the pro illegal fans keep talking.......it simply proves they have to be correct at any cost.

The facts speak for themselves
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-26-2007, 08:05 PM
 
Location: CA Coast
1,900 posts, read 1,706,920 times
Reputation: 350
I find is sad, and humorous simultaneously that when one states that there is a problem difficult to solve he is immediately tagged as pro illegal. Says something about the state of education in America today.

That some of you are unable to understand why there is an illegal alien problem is not so amusing, and is frankly, weird.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-26-2007, 08:08 PM
 
3,712 posts, read 5,709,656 times
Reputation: 1285
Quote:
Originally Posted by greatbasinguide View Post
You know of no Americans killed by people who do not like us?
Sure- a lot of Americans are killed by drunken illegals. Or shot by them. Or stabbed by them.



Quote:
No problem, but do not whine about the problem if you are part of it.
Actually, I am part of the solution. So are alot of other people.



Quote:
No my dear, it is fact. simple economic fact, which a good five minute look at the economics of Capitalist labor would show you.
So explain to me how the 'economics of Capitalist labor' results in some illegal alien woman showing up at a border state hospital to drop an anchor baby.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-26-2007, 08:18 PM
 
Location: CA Coast
1,900 posts, read 1,706,920 times
Reputation: 350
Please reflect on my prior posts, and your prior posts and see how your answers in this last post do not reflect any understanding of what I wrote. You are modifying your answers to attempt a correlation with stand alone sentences, yet my sequence of posts was a coherent statement, please respond to that rather than simply type responses scarcely related.

I will respond to your last statement although your use of the term anchorbaby reflects a political position at odds with reality.

Read carefully; in the Capitalist system the difference between the cost of production and the value of the product is profit. It is in the interest of the Capitalists to have the cheapest cost of production. Since in the America economy the cheapest labor is that of llegals, the labor of illegals is sought. Thus illegal immigration into the country is supported by Capitalists and any attempt to restrict is suppressed by them. The anchor baby argument is irrelevant aside from it being an attempt to remain in the nation to serve.... you...

Since the cost of production by illegals is lower than by legals, the end result is cheaper products for..... you.

Your job, which you won't do as it would inconvenience you, and the rest of the whiners, is to avoid using or buying products produced in part by illegal labor.

Me, I accept the hypocrisy, illegal labor exists, both you and I and even Arizona Bear profit from it. You don't like it, but you profit by it while whining about it. I refuse to whine, and that is the difference between you and I.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-26-2007, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
21,148 posts, read 36,615,542 times
Reputation: 3785
If our 'whining' is of such concern to you, greatbasinguide; why do you even 'deign' to deal with us?

We certainly do not take you seriously anymore.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-26-2007, 08:29 PM
 
Location: CA Coast
1,900 posts, read 1,706,920 times
Reputation: 350
I am like a preacher in the midst of sinners, attempting to open your eyes to your sin. Only those who reflectively think about the problem will change. Those who are so enmeshed in the "badness" won't. They will continue walking in the self imposed darkness.

Like the street corner preacher, most here will continue in ignorance, but if I reach one person who can stop and say, I contribute to the problem, therefore I cannot complain. Then I have done my job.

Some of ya'll are like the cigarette smoker complaining about the smoke in a cafe, One never knows, perhaps even you shall see the light.

I have suggested a boycott of all companies using illegal labor, that hardly sounds pro illegal does it? Tell me it does, so that I can fall off my stool laughing.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Illegal Immigration
Similar Threads
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2018, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top