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Old 09-03-2014, 04:36 PM
 
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Like the article explained, its only a pressing issue to mexicans because the vast majority of illegals are mexican, its not a pressing issue for cubans, dominicans and puerto ricans and its not a pressing for africans and caribbeans, and its not pressing for citizens obviously

The key term is pressing, people may be for immigration reform or amnesty that doesn't mean its a pressing issue for them. I think both sides dont really get that, that overall immigration isnt a pressing issue
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Old 09-03-2014, 04:59 PM
 
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Like the article explained, its only a pressing issue to mexicans because the vast majority of illegals are mexican, its not a pressing issue for cubans, dominicans and puerto ricans and its not a pressing for africans and caribbeans, and its not pressing for citizens obviously

The key term is pressing, people may be for immigration reform or amnesty that doesn't mean its a pressing issue for them. I think both sides dont really get that, that overall immigration isnt a pressing issue
It is a pressing issue for Americans for the rule of law and that have educated themselves on illegal immigration and the negative impact it has on their lives and they don't want any part of a so-called immigration reform aka amnesty. They want our immigration laws enforced.
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Old 09-03-2014, 05:18 PM
 
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Like the article explained, its only a pressing issue to mexicans because the vast majority of illegals are mexican, its not a pressing issue for cubans, dominicans and puerto ricans and its not a pressing for africans and caribbeans, and its not pressing for citizens obviously

The key term is pressing, people may be for immigration reform or amnesty that doesn't mean its a pressing issue for them. I think both sides dont really get that, that overall immigration isnt a pressing issue
How long do you think it will take Mexicans to realize that they have been used and had by their Messiah Obama???

This is what happens when your pin your hopes and dreams on a habitual LIAR. Couldn't happen to a more undeserving group of lawbreakers.

How do you say ENJOY in Spanish, LOL !!!
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Old 09-03-2014, 06:16 PM
 
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There is compelling evidence that this immigration crisis and the rush for immigration reform has a political component. Are these children just pawns in a political scheme?
California State Senator Darrell Steinberg returning from a fact-finding trip to these countries these immigrants are fleeing, discovered these children are not escaping gang violence, rape and sex traffic, but are just seeking economic and education opportunities.
The president of Guatemala said that the influx of immigrants is due to the hope of immigration reform, and legal status or amnesty. Any form of legal status or amnesty would be a slap in the face to those who are legally going through the immigration process. Or does it matter if there are votes to be had?
Emily Schultheis of the Politico reported that immigration reform would change the political landscape for a generation or more. Pumping 11 million Hispanic voters into the electorate, a bonanza for the Democrats, and crippling the Republicans for decades.
Reuters reported that Eliso Medina, who served on Obama’s Latina Council, has put in a plan for long-term Democratic rule through blanket amnesty. He said, “We will have 8-10 million new voters, creating a governing coalition for long-term.” These new voters will not vote for someone who will take away their government benefits, or send them home. Currently 57 percent of immigrant households are on some type of government support.
President Obama said, “These are the children of our future.” What makes these children more special than our own children? If these children are indeed the children of our future, why shouldn’t they be the children of their own countries’ future?
Why is our country allowing these families to surrender their children and then subject them to a perilous journey — a journey for some, that ends in tragedy? Witnessing the disgusting way these children are being exploited, abused and allowed to die is cold, harsh and barbaric.
There is a clear message being sent: “Come as fast as you can;” this is the land of “free milk and honey,” evidenced by the ease of entrance across our borders and the lavish benefits bestowed on them once here. These are benefits that many American citizens who have worked all their lives can’t qualify for.
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Old 09-03-2014, 07:55 PM
 
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How long do you think it will take Mexicans to realize that they have been used and had by their Messiah Obama???

This is what happens when your pin your hopes and dreams on a habitual LIAR. Couldn't happen to a more undeserving group of lawbreakers.

How do you say ENJOY in Spanish, LOL !!!
Agreed tho those Mexicans who come here LEGALLY are very pissed because they OBEYED our rules.
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Old 09-04-2014, 04:31 AM
 
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Perhaps he backed down on his Labor Day "surprise" amnesty because of recent polls? I know that letters, like Don Rosenberg's, would not make him blink: Father of man killed by illegal immigrant challenges Obama on deportations - Washington Times.

Of course the next time will be after November elections.

I am still curious if the Democrats will be happy with the fact that only a Conservative Republican President has granted amnesty in recent history? They like to see themselves as champions for this new push. Without deeds; their support could melt. They are playing a dangerous game.

I found the Labor Day amnesty to be particularly offensive. I am glad that our President backed down. I worked for a company for 25 years that shut it's doors on Labor Day - laying off thousands of workers. The idea of granting amnesty to millions on Labor Day would prove that nobody is on labor's side.
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Old 09-04-2014, 08:06 AM
 
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Default Why?

Obama has lost his objectivity and has others molding his policy. Lame duck President.

Plus he persevering as much power for the Democratic Party a she can.
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Old 09-06-2014, 09:30 AM
 
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Obama announced his decision today .... no Executive Orders on Immigration before the election.

Rubin Navarrette knows exactly what he is talking about. - I don't even expect anything of any magnitude after the election.
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Old 09-06-2014, 09:52 AM
 
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It would be political suicide for Obama to sign an executive order granting amnesty to millions before the midterms, and he and the Senate Dems know it. The majority of American citizens are against this action. Janet Murguia was on MSNBC Friday telling Obama they are "done waiting" for him to keep his promise of amnesty for "6 million illegal immigrants." She said Obama the Senate Democrats are asking them to wait a little longer (for obvious reasons), and LaRaza is very unhappy about that.
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Old 09-06-2014, 11:03 AM
 
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It would be political suicide for Obama to sign an executive order granting amnesty to millions before the midterms, and he and the Senate Dems know it. The majority of American citizens are against this action. Janet Murguia was on MSNBC Friday telling Obama they are "done waiting" for him to keep his promise of amnesty for "6 million illegal immigrants." She said Obama the Senate Democrats are asking them to wait a little longer (for obvious reasons), and LaRaza is very unhappy about that.
There is more to it than "political suicide" ..... I don't think that Obama wants immigration reform at all.
He didn't want it in 2008 - Navarette says Obama wrote the Poison Pill that blew it all up. He signed on as a co-author, but he was not the one that introduced the bill - by the way, Harry Reid helped a lot with that. Obama does want both Money and Votes from Hispanics, but his "base" is not fond of Amnesty at all.

Obama in 2007 backed an amendment to sunset a guest-worker program that was an essential part of an immigration deal crafted by Republicans and former Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.).

Kennedy opposed the amendment, but Obama — who was then running for president — supported the measure, and it was approved by one vote, 49-48.
The immigration bill then stalled, and the Senate coalition failed to regain enough momentum to push it to final passage.

Memories of the 2007 “poison pill” amendment are coloring perceptions of this year’s immigration debate, even though some participants differ on some of the details from six years ago.


The Guest Worker Program is still a big contention - Unions are adamantly against a Guest Worker program because they can't Unionize "guest workers".
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