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Old 09-24-2014, 09:19 PM
 
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For same reason as in past. In this instance we like other western nations need highly skilled workers ;not laborers. Many in favor of amnesty to anyone ;really are saying the US worker will not do those jobs they take. I see it as a insult that they are destined to be dependents of state. We no longer need the world's poor; plain and simple.
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Old 09-24-2014, 10:01 PM
 
Location: Mexifornia
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Extremely relevant video even today.

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Old 09-24-2014, 10:31 PM
 
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Unfortunately, that is true of so many illegal aliens. So unless most Americans are looking for government handouts rather than working I would say no their culture isn't like ours.
I was referring to the school that pulled Valentines because of immigrants. However, yes most illegals do come for handouts and this is known by the stat that most receive welfare. The amount of pregnant women who cross over to give birth here is staggering and they do it for welfare.
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Old 09-25-2014, 09:14 AM
 
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The elites need endless immigration from around the world to suppress the price of labor and destroy the white working and middle classes.

So far it's working like a charm. But we'll see how long things last.
I'm tired of the Americans on this forum that are whining about (legal) immigrants taking their jobs. Folks who are too lazy to work or to get educated and better themselves are threatened by immigrants who work hard and sacrifice to send thir kids to college. It's true that many immigrants who come here can't speak English, are poor and uneducated, and so they often receive food stamps and Medicaid. But within one generation their kids are fluent in English, college educated, starting businesses and paying taxes. Those businesses and taxes, by the way, will help support native-born Americans who failed to save for retirement and are counting on Social Security.
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Old 09-25-2014, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Pa
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Also, if you don't think there is enough "room" in this country for more people, then YOU should be the one to leave, rather than trying to deny others the opportunity to come here.

I'm sure somewhere like Belarus, where there is an all white population with closed borders and no desire to change or improve themselves, would be much more to your liking. I've heard they also have pretty strict laws to control wages and welfare so that's right up your alley too.

But the rest of us would prefer to not live in Belarus - and to not turn the United States into Belarus either.
I'M all for legal immigration. WE don't need unlimited immigration. We absolutely need to be selective about who we allow to come into the country. We have no need of uneducated and unskilled people. We absolutely have no need for criminals (which every illegal is a criminal).
Illegal immigration isn't a race issue for any one but those trying to defend it by making it about race.
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Old 09-25-2014, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Pa
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I'm tired of the Americans on this forum that are whining about (legal) immigrants taking their jobs. Folks who are too lazy to work or to get educated and better themselves are threatened by immigrants who work hard and sacrifice to send thir kids to college. It's true that many immigrants who come here can't speak English, are poor and uneducated, and so they often receive food stamps and Medicaid. But within one generation their kids are fluent in English, college educated, starting businesses and paying taxes. Those businesses and taxes, by the way, will help support native-born Americans who failed to save for retirement and are counting on Social Security.
I'm tired of people using this forum to talk about legal immigration. Most on this forum don't have an issue with (legal) immigrants. This forum is about illegal immigration and every citizen and legal immigrant should be outraged by the mentality of illegals and their supporters.
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Old 09-25-2014, 10:37 AM
 
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I'm tired of people using this forum to talk about legal immigration. Most on this forum don't have an issue with (legal) immigrants. This forum is about illegal immigration and every citizen and legal immigrant should be outraged by the mentality of illegals and their supporters.
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Old 09-25-2014, 10:39 AM
 
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I'm tired of the Americans on this forum that are whining about (legal) immigrants taking their jobs. Folks who are too lazy to work or to get educated and better themselves are threatened by immigrants who work hard and sacrifice to send thir kids to college. It's true that many immigrants who come here can't speak English, are poor and uneducated, and so they often receive food stamps and Medicaid. But within one generation their kids are fluent in English, college educated, starting businesses and paying taxes. Those businesses and taxes, by the way, will help support native-born Americans who failed to save for retirement and are counting on Social Security.
Who in this forum has been whining about "legal" immigrants? This forum isn't even about them. It's about illegal aliens.
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Old 09-25-2014, 03:37 PM
 
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Who in this forum has been whining about "legal" immigrants? This forum isn't even about them. It's about illegal aliens.
The title of this thread is "why do we need immigation?" The original post in this thread was explicitly about both legal and illegal immigration. Many of the comments in this thread have been about immigrants not assimilating, receiving gov't aid and taking jobs, etc. These objections seem to be aimed not only at illegals, but immigrants in general.

But agreed, this discussion should not be on the illegal immigration forum.
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Old 09-25-2014, 05:10 PM
 
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The title of this thread is "why do we need immigation?" The original post in this thread was explicitly about both legal and illegal immigration. Many of the comments in this thread have been about immigrants not assimilating, receiving gov't aid and taking jobs, etc. These objections seem to be aimed not only at illegals, but immigrants in general.

But agreed, this discussion should not be on the illegal immigration forum.
IMO, this thread belonged in the legal immigration forum not here but since it was left here legal immigration was discussed. It's just a fact that some or many "immigrants" do not assimilate but it is mostly illegal aliens who don't. If legal immigrants are entitled to government benefits according to the law then so be it but it is illegal aliens that are receiving them also via their U.S. born kids and that is the objection. Illegal aliens are also taking jobs from Americans. That's just a fact also. In many cases such as in the computer industry employers are seeking/recruiting visas for legal immigrants so that they won't have to pay an American a fair wage. That's wrong also.
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