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Old 12-27-2007, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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I already do believe the U.S has enough unskilled illegal laborers. The ones who have a clean record should be the ones given amnesty.
Amnesty is rewarding breaking the law -

No amnesty
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Old 12-27-2007, 09:56 AM
 
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Do you know if they go back they face a 10 year or permanent ban? So if they go back there is no way in hell they would even be allowed to apply for entry in a legal manner. It might be simple but it's not as easy to say go back and come back legally.
Then maybe someone should "get the word out" that the 10 year ban exists in the FIRST place, so that MAYBE they'll be disuaded to cross illegally in the first place.

That's what the ban is designed to do. If you choose to ignore the future consequences when crossing illegally, that is your conscious decision. There are many other nations to immigrate to illegally besides the US.
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Old 12-27-2007, 10:00 AM
 
Location: California
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Do you know if they go back they face a 10 year or permanent ban? So if they go back there is no way in hell they would even be allowed to apply for entry in a legal manner. It might be simple but it's not as easy to say go back and come back legally.
Here is where two thing lines collide. Some say, they shouldn't be allowed to be here anyway so who cares if they face a 10 year ban. They shouldn't have been here in the first place!

Then there is your sentiment. Who is right? It depends what kind of person you talk to. People who feel for the illegals emotionally or "ethos" are the ones who are pro-illegal. "oh they are starving in their countries, there is no work." or more formerly known as "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

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Old 12-27-2007, 10:02 AM
 
Location: California
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Amnesty is rewarding breaking the law -

No amnesty
Let me remind you giving amnesty isn't anything new the U.S has done.
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Old 12-27-2007, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth/Dallas
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Let me remind you giving amnesty isn't anything new the U.S has done.
Exactly Pro. It was done in the 80s and look where it has gotten us. Nothing was done after the amnesty as the government promised. That is the main reason I don't support a second wave of amnesty; I don't trust the government to keep their word.
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Old 12-27-2007, 10:44 AM
 
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Exactly Pro. It was done in the 80s and look where it has gotten us. Nothing was done after the amnesty as the government promised. That is the main reason I don't support a second wave of amnesty; I don't trust the government to keep their word.
My point too. I remember that "earlier" amnesty---there was even catchy little "corrido", popular for a few months, which had words to the effect that "Esta mojado va a ser seco"...etc etc ("This wetb*ck is gonna be DRY") ...But mostly, the amnesty at that time produced no great wave of "thanks", and certasinly no end to the problem.

Mostly, now, we don't hear "Thanks for the amnesty--my family benefitted". What we USUALLY hear is "If you could do it then, you can do it NOW !" The American public just doesn't have any confidence that amnesty would do anything but cause MORE demands, not less.
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Old 12-27-2007, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Let me remind you giving amnesty isn't anything new the U.S has done.
You are correct

And, we can learn from our MISTAKES

We made a huge mistake the last time

We should not repeat the same mistakes
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Old 12-27-2007, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Do you know if they go back they face a 10 year or permanent ban?
Well, that is the risk they took when they first came here illegally.
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Old 12-27-2007, 11:22 AM
 
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All these labels show is that the media is extremely biased and does not represent the interests of the American people.

I consider myself PRO-ENFORCEMENT (of current immigration laws).

Other terms that could be used to describe other like-minded Americans:

SANE
Patriotic Americans
Pro-Middle Class
Pro-Labor
Defenders of American Sovereignty




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Old 12-27-2007, 11:52 AM
 
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We should change that ten-year ban to a life-long ban. Then, we should strip all anchor babies of their citizenship and make that retroactive for up to 25 years...That might eliminate some of the anti-American, anti-enforcement sentiment from our country and from this board.



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