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Old 10-17-2014, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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Stop it, please. Can you PROVE that all of the American Indian tribes got here at the SAME time? Too; many times when 1 tribe tried to cross through another's turf, THAT would def touch off some real nasty battles. But in 2014 the different tribes seem to have "memory loss" over what THEIR ancestors did way back when with each other.
This part, which history buffs are well aware of, gets pushed aside by apologists. Not so well known is that the tribes warred on each other longer, with more brutality, than they did against the Europeans and then Americans. For just one example, examine the Beaver Wars of the second, third, and first half of the fourth, quarters of the 17th century. The Iroquois Confederacy, in their wars of conquest, exterminated whole tribes, not just conquered them. At the same time, they lost an estimated 50% of their warriors killed during these long wars. That was a lot of bloodshed.

 
Old 10-17-2014, 10:02 AM
 
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Why do the writers of these articles have to lie so? First off those of us who want a secure border and immigrants to come legally are not anti-immigration We are anti-illegal immigration. Next the article goes on about brown skin aka the race card. Hmm, last I checked most legal immigrants come from Mexico and other Latino countries and many if not most of them have brown skin. Amnesty for millions of illegal aliens would burden our country not benefit it and as I stated before would be a slap in the face to legal immigrants who followed the legal process to come here.

I could go on and on about all the lies in this article but the above is just the tip of the iceberg.
Oldglory: IMHO the pro amnesty fans are running scared, BIG time. There's def real worry the Dems are gonna lose and lose bad next month. That's why they keep trying the "race card" even tho SOME illegal aliens are def of the "white race".
 
Old 10-21-2014, 01:36 AM
 
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Understanding Genetics
 
Old 10-21-2014, 02:54 AM
 
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Obama's Shamnesty is done, unless he commits political suicide with an executive order.

ISIS, Ebola and this crappy economy with wage stagflation has broadsided this Liberal TOOL!
 
Old 10-21-2014, 07:00 AM
 
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There are a whole lot of us Brownskins that want a secure border, illegals to be held accountable and less psychotic immigation system.
 
Old 10-21-2014, 08:24 AM
 
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There are a whole lot of us Brownskins that want a secure border, illegals to be held accountable and less psychotic immigation system.
Agreed tho in the words of the "people of color" racists and "white libs": you and your pals would be still counted as KKK members even tho your homies ain't "white". lol
 
Old 10-21-2014, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Southeast, where else?
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Technically we are all illegal immigrants, except for the native tribes. They were here first and we did not obtain legal purchase of this land from applying with chiefs of tribes...so we are all alien. We defaulted on treaty after treaty and pushed native tribes all the way to California and forced the Cherokee nation out of the southeast

We are as guilty as descendants of these people we won't afford amnesty
True. But, it does beg the question, when is enough...enough? We are 315,000,000 and counting....3rd largest country by population, on the Earth.....do we just leave the back door open.....forever? At some point NO ONE's society can support it all.....look at China and India...number 1 and 2 in population respectively...we are behind India and roughly 1/3 of their population....do we wait until we have enough to resemble India?

When will enough immigrants....be enough? Just asking....
 
Old 10-21-2014, 09:08 AM
 
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Default Are Native American Indians fundamentally Asians?

Scientists looked at mtDNA from many Native Americans and many Asians. They were surprised again. Based on their DNA, Native Americans belong to five different groups. Groups 1-4 are closely related to Asian people. The fifth group is most closely related European or Western Asian people! So it seems most Native Americans are originally from Asia and as you said fundamentally Asian. However, it seems there are some whose origins are from Europe!

Understanding Genetics

This WILL make the "white people" haters sick at heart when some la raza people find out they're part "white" through their Indian side. lol

Too; if I'm reading this article right; it sounds to me there were some other "Columbus's" who discovered what is at least least LatAm and probably killed off earlier groups.

Maybe most Americans Indians are also the descendents of illegal aliens here.
 
Old 10-21-2014, 09:13 AM
 
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The premise of the article is that it's bad for republicans to pander to the white vote. Why? How is that any worse than democrats getting 95% of the black vote? The Democratic party hasn't won a majority of the white vote in a presidential election since 1964. Is that a problem? The writer of the article only has a problem with one side, not the other. That's fine, if you are a partisan, but don't pass yourself off as some unbiased writer.
 
Old 10-21-2014, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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Technically we are all illegal immigrants, except for the native tribes. They were here first and we did not obtain legal purchase of this land from applying with chiefs of tribes...so we are all alien. We defaulted on treaty after treaty and pushed native tribes all the way to California and forced the Cherokee nation out of the southeast

We are as guilty as descendants of these people we won't afford amnesty
We ceased being illegal immigrants when we signed the constitution and became a nation. So what you are saying is every human on this planet in every country is illegal? Tell that to Canada, France, Italy. You probably support the Palestinians in their efforts to become a country...right? I think you would support Mexico taking over the southern half of the USA....They were the invaders back in the day...ask a real Indian.
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