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Old 10-20-2014, 04:05 PM
 
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Old 10-20-2014, 06:09 PM
 
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Here lays the issue. The House Republicans don't want anything that resembles amnesty or a path to citizenship for illegal aliens and rightly so. So just want kind of amendment could they send to the Senate? There is no reform needed that includes the above so what would be the point of amending the Senate bill and sending it back to them when the main components of the Senate bill would be tossed out? A so-called CIR bill is ludicrous to begin with therefore there is no possibility of both sides working together when the main idea of the bill is ludicrous to begin with.
It's not considered ludicrous legislation when a Bipartisan Senate overwhelmingly voted to pass the bill. You don't want amnesty? Bring it to the floor and amend it so there is no amnesty. Very simple. Facts are, House Republicans don't want to go on the official record saying that every illegal has to immediately leave the country and there is no possibility of any path to citizenship now or in the future. They know it would close the door on any and all the Hispanic voters.
House Republicans don't want to work towards a solution. Without keeping illegal immigration as a republican political issue to beat Democrats over the head with, they have very little of a political platform.
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Old 10-20-2014, 06:50 PM
 
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It's not considered ludicrous legislation when a Bipartisan Senate overwhelmingly voted to pass the bill. You don't want amnesty? Bring it to the floor and amend it so there is no amnesty. Very simple. Facts are, House Republicans don't want to go on the official record saying that every illegal has to immediately leave the country and there is no possibility of any path to citizenship now or in the future. They know it would close the door on any and all the Hispanic voters.
House Republicans don't want to work towards a solution. Without keeping illegal immigration as a republican political issue to beat Democrats over the head with, they have very little of a political platform.
Uh; maybe "Hispanic" voters need to be mad over "their people" NOT getting amnesty in the US. Maybe a bunch will move to a Hispanic country where they'd feel more at home. Too; many Americans of "Hispanic" family do want illegal aliens OUT.

If the Dems really wanted to put the hurt to the Repubs; let Obama's boys make a "NO amnesty, ever" stand.
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Old 10-20-2014, 07:41 PM
 
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It's still ludicrous to advocate amnesty for illegal aliens. FYI, the GOP nor the House is advocating for mass deportations. Nothing to amend as the bill is all about amnesty under a silly name called CIR.

WHY is the GOP losing the Hispanic vote over this? Aren't Hispanic-Americans obligated to respect our immigration laws just like every other citizen is?

The GOP has a solution. Remove the incentives for illegal aliens to remain here and to continue to come here. If they truly are here for a better life then they will self-deport without the means to attain it.
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Old 10-20-2014, 11:20 PM
 
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It's still ludicrous to advocate amnesty for illegal aliens. FYI, the GOP nor the House is advocating for mass deportations. Nothing to amend as the bill is all about amnesty under a silly name called CIR.

WHY is the GOP losing the Hispanic vote over this? Aren't Hispanic-Americans obligated to respect our immigration laws just like every other citizen is?

The GOP has a solution. Remove the incentives for illegal aliens to remain here and to continue to come here. If they truly are here for a better life then they will self-deport without the means to attain it.
That's a great Idea. Remove the incentives. Why not have the House Republicans take the Senate bill they have sitting in their in box......the one we've been talking about....... and strike all mention of amnesty off it, while adding stiff penalties for any company that hires an illegal? You take away the breadwinner and the whole family self deports. Shove that down the Senate's throat to gag on and the ball ends up in their court, instead of the Republican house's court.
By attacking the business community, you don't attack the Hispanic community but still achieve your aims of ridding the nation of all illegal immigrants and maybe get the legal Hispanic Americans to vote for you.
What's wrong with that picture?

Perhaps Republicans won't actually attack the problem, because it is business that is causing it?
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Old 10-21-2014, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY
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Enough with this "pathway to citizenship" nonsense. Newsflash: there is now and has always been a pathway to citizenship.

Republicans aren't derailing anything, either, as long as Obama has his pen. With libs and La Raza prodding him to do something, (specifically, expand DACA to include those over 30 and.....wait for it.... their family members), it's only a matter of time before he signs an executive order.
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