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Old 12-30-2007, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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PHOENIX, Arizona (AFP) - New laws targeting employers who hire illegal immigrants take effect here on January 1, with experts predicting the move may cost the state's economy billions of dollars in lost income and taxes.
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The so-called 'experts' seem to overlook the fact that the housing market here is imploding causing mass layoffs-------so, Arizona may be down $$$ anyway.
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Old 12-30-2007, 08:52 PM
 
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The so-called 'experts' seem to overlook the fact that the housing market here is imploding causing mass layoffs-------so, Arizona may be down $$$ anyway.
The expert are right and i expect people to be scrambling to repeal that law in no time.
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Old 12-30-2007, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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The expert are right and i expect people to be scrambling to repeal that law in no time.
We will see
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Old 12-30-2007, 11:54 PM
 
Location: Surprise, Az
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You have to be blind or completely illiterate in economics to think that this new law is not going to have at the very least a short term adverse effect in Arizona.

The long term effects...who knows? Hopefully good.

You better buckle down for the short term and don't be surprised to see moderate layoffs in several industries...

And don't be fooled if the opening of the year is an economic boom. Because it will be for the simple fact that the Super bowl is in town. The Big money is here for the party...once they are gone so is their money.

I think by the summer we will see the full effects of the law. Good and bad.
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Old 12-31-2007, 12:09 AM
 
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You have to be blind or completely illiterate in economics to think that this new law is not going to have at the very least a short term adverse effect in Arizona.

The long term effects...who knows? Hopefully good.

You better buckle down for the short term and don't be surprised to see moderate layoffs in several industries...

And don't be fooled if the opening of the year is an economic boom. Because it will be for the simple fact that the Super bowl is in town. The Big money is here for the party...once they are gone so is their money.

I think by the summer we will see the full effects of the law. Good and bad.
The issue of the impact of illegal labor has been hyped way too much.

Laborers are are simply not that important to the economy any longer. Who needs a ditch-digger any more?

Perhaps some businesses will have to increase their prices somewhat and some of the poorly managed ones might go under, but they deserve to anway just because they are poorly managed. But who cares if you have to drive an extra block to get a cheeseburger?

There will be net benefits to the State, certainly in the long-term, as the illegals go away and take the burden of their families with them. Less crime, less Welfare, less Medicaid, less food-stamps and whatever else illegals drag out of the taxpayers' wallets ...
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Old 12-31-2007, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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You have to be blind or completely illiterate in economics to think that this new law is not going to have at the very least a short term adverse effect in Arizona.

The long term effects...who knows? Hopefully good.

You better buckle down for the short term and don't be surprised to see moderate layoffs in several industries...

And don't be fooled if the opening of the year is an economic boom. Because it will be for the simple fact that the Super bowl is in town. The Big money is here for the party...once they are gone so is their money.

I think by the summer we will see the full effects of the law. Good and bad.
You may very well be 100% correct. Too with the collapsing economy in places like Michigan; we may see more Americans moving here taking those $7-15 per hour jobs once filled by the illegals.
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Old 12-31-2007, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Southern Arizona
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The so-called 'experts' seem to overlook the fact that the housing market here is imploding causing mass layoffs-------so, Arizona may be down $$$ anyway.
Good one, ArizonaBear

Only the illegal lovers will see this law as a negative. The primary losers and possible defunct businesses will be those who have been blatantly cheating the taxpayers by exploiting the illegals for personal gain.

The economy is "pooping" anyway due to many issues but I bet many will try to blame the new law.

For every dollar lost with the departing illegals there will be many dollars saved in the long run.
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Old 12-31-2007, 01:11 PM
 
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Why don't they just hire high school/middle school kids to do it? So many companies whine about people having no experience, but it's hard to get experience when no one wants to hire you! And hey 7 bucks an hour is quite good for high schoolers.
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Old 12-31-2007, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Why don't they just hire high school/middle school kids to do it? So many companies whine about people having no experience, but it's hard to get experience when no one wants to hire you! And hey 7 bucks an hour is quite good for high schoolers.
Thank you.
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Old 12-31-2007, 07:36 PM
 
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Thank you.
High school kids i know these days won't stand in the hot arizona sun and pick fruits etc for 7 dollars an hour.
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