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Old 11-17-2014, 06:39 PM
 
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No. The Court very specifically stated that their decision was based on the facts of the case, specifically...

"The evident intention, and the necessary effect, of the submission of this case to the decision of the court upon the facts agreed by the parties were to present for determination the single question stated at the beginning of this opinion, namely, whether a child born in the United States, of parent of Chinese descent, who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of the Emperor of China, but have a permanent domicil and residence in the United States, and are there carrying on business, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China, becomes at the time of his birth a citizen of the United States. For the reasons above stated, this court is of opinion that the question must be answered in the affirmative."

The parents must have a permanent domicile and residence in the U.S. WKA's parents were in the U.S. legally. Illegal immigrants don't have a permanent domicile in the U.S. Their permanent domicile is in their home country; the country which would issue their passports were they to have one.
Virtually all illegals have a permanent domicile and residence in the US after a year or so.

Look up domicile and get back to me. The illegals have no residence or domicile in their home country.

You grasp at straws.
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Old 11-17-2014, 06:54 PM
 
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Virtually all illegals have a permanent domicile and residence in the US after a year or so.
No, they don't. They may have a residence in the U.S. (albeit, illegally), but their legal domicile is in their home country. Easy to determine such: which country would issue their passport?
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Old 11-17-2014, 07:39 PM
 
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Virtually all illegals have a permanent domicile and residence in the US after a year or so.

Look up domicile and get back to me. The illegals have no residence or domicile in their home country.

You grasp at straws.
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No, they don't. They may have a residence in the U.S. (albeit, illegally), but their legal domicile is in their home country. Easy to determine such: which country would issue their passport?
IC's right. Illegal aliens are just squatters and, back in the day, squatters COULD be evicted. Period. Just that the "powers to be" are too scared of racism or some other nonsense to step up and take care of business.
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Old 11-17-2014, 07:47 PM
 
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No, they don't. They may have a residence in the U.S. (albeit, illegally), but their legal domicile is in their home country. Easy to determine such: which country would issue their passport?
Simply and utterly untrue. They have no domicile in the old country. That is a place where you live and intent to return to. They have none.

They live and intend to continue to live in the US. That is both their residence and domicile. There is no rule or law that you have to be legal to live in a residence or a domicile.

Sorry about that but legal residence is not a requirement.
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Old 11-17-2014, 07:49 PM
 
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IC's right. Illegal aliens are just squatters and, back in the day, squatters COULD be evicted. Period. Just that the "powers to be" are too scared of racism or some other nonsense to step up and take care of business.
They are not squatters. They pay their rent or in some cases own the place. They are not squatters. Get over it. They are domiciled in the US and their children are citizens.
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Old 11-17-2014, 08:22 PM
 
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Simply and utterly untrue. They have no domicile in the old country. That is a place where you live and intent to return to. They have none.

They live and intend to continue to live in the US. That is both their residence and domicile. There is no rule or law that you have to be legal to live in a residence or a domicile.

Sorry about that but legal residence is not a requirement.
Ivoc: it doesn't matter. ILLEGAL aliens CAN be deported to their own countries under US law. God knows that Mexico does just that to illegals from Guatemala and so on.
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Old 11-17-2014, 08:41 PM
 
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Ivoc: it doesn't matter. ILLEGAL aliens CAN be deported to their own countries under US law. God knows that Mexico does just that to illegals from Guatemala and so on.
But their children are US citizens. And if you send them away they will inevitably come back.

that return is unlikely to be one that the US will be pleased with.

Mexico has virtually the same problem as the US at its southern end. And does even less well at handling it.
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Old 11-18-2014, 05:28 AM
 
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Simply and utterly untrue. They have no domicile in the old country. That is a place where you live and intent to return to. They have none.
You left out the word illegally. They don't have a legal residence in the U.S. Because they can't establish a legal residence here, they cannot change their domicile to the U.S. Their domicile remains their citizenship country.

It's a federal offense to harbor an illegal alien.

http://www.justice.gov/usao/eousa/fo...9/crm01907.htm
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Old 11-18-2014, 05:31 AM
 
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Ivoc: it doesn't matter. ILLEGAL aliens CAN be deported to their own countries under US law.
Exactly. Because they have neither a legal residence nor domicile in the U.S.
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Old 11-18-2014, 06:23 AM
 
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But their children are US citizens. And if you send them away they will inevitably come back.

that return is unlikely to be one that the US will be pleased with.

Mexico has virtually the same problem as the US at its southern end. And does even less well at handling it.
Birthright CAN be taken away, at least for anchor kids under about 18 years. It was done in the Dominican Republic even tho that went too far IMHO.
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