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Old 01-01-2008, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Correction- it will be populated by dash-Americans.
Not this one: I am an American--------of Hungarian, etc lineage
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Old 01-01-2008, 06:06 PM
 
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It is past time to eliminate the 'Hispanic' label in all official government business, period.
Yes, I understand that Hispanic is a broad based description of a large number of people from a wide variety of places. Someone from Peru who is one percent Indian is quite different than someone with a mixture of Italian and Spanish blood from Chile. But I do see a huge ethnic and cultural aspect of the typical immigrant from Mexico and Central America.
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Old 01-01-2008, 06:08 PM
 
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Yes, I understand that Hispanic is a broad based description of a large number of people from a wide variety of places. Someone from Peru who is one percent Indian is quite different than someone with a mixture of Italian and Spanish blood from Chile. But I do see a huge ethnic and cultural aspect of the typical immigrant from Mexico and Central America.
That huge "ethnic and cultural aspect" is basically Spanish language and a penchant for spicier foods.

Nobody here would accept the wholesale lumping of EVERY person in the US, Canada, Britain, Ireland, Australia, South Africa, and New Zealand into a new "race" or "ethnicity", would they? Even though there are huge ethnic and cultural aspects of the typical citizen of any of the "former British colonies?"

"Brittanicans?"
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Old 01-01-2008, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Land of 10000 Lakes + some
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The big question is should these people be from Asia who traditonally have been higher educated and more likely to go into occupations with higher skills, or Hispanic who are more likely to be lower skilled workers.

Very, leading, deliberately slanted bigoted question, and add to that a cheap way to stir up the pot. The children of many of these "lower skilled workers" go on to college, my friend.
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Old 01-01-2008, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Stockton, CA, USA
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Whites, because I think somehow the situation with mexicans will turn around. If it doesn't, that means the U.S. is going to be a third-world country. I just don't see that happening, there's too many Whites in office not to turn things around.
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Old 01-02-2008, 04:41 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, which as I understand was once upon a time ago part of the United States of America
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Whites, because I think somehow the situation with mexicans will turn around. If it doesn't, that means the U.S. is going to be a third-world country. I just don't see that happening, there's too many Whites in office not to turn things around.
I used to believe that, but then I stopped watching Fox News.

The gated community elitists who control this country's direction want it to be a Third World country, because they benefit from it being so. They can become richer and more powerful by devaluing this nation's middle and working classes, while insulating themselves in their communities, as is the case in countries such as Brazil or Mexico.
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Old 01-02-2008, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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I used to believe that, but then I stopped watching Fox News.

The gated community elitists who control this country's direction want it to be a Third World country, because they benefit from it being so. They can become richer and more powerful by devaluing this nation's middle and working classes, while insulating themselves in their communities, as is the case in countries such as Brazil or Mexico.
Quite a few of the 'ivory tower elite' will be coming down to Earth very soon I suspect
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Old 01-02-2008, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Regardless of the ethnic group that comes into America, the whites are on their way out. Whites will remain a majority for awhile but over time ethnic minorities from outside Europe- will become majority.

The big question is should these people be from Asia who traditonally have been higher educated and more likely to go into occupations with higher skills, or Hispanic who are more likely to be lower skilled workers.

Should we invite mostly higher skilled or lower skilled people into America regardless of race or culture?
I think a pragmatic approach might be in order. For the next 10 years, approve immigration applications of higher skilled people. When the workforce inevitably changes and the Boomers have mostly retired, there would be enough skilled folks to fill the voids. Once that's stabilized, we might decide that we want to accept a set number of low-skilled applicants from other countries.
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Old 01-02-2008, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Really? How do you define "normal"? The last time I checked, Asians are a protected group who can form ethnically based organizations within schools, the workplace, etc. to protect their employment, whilst White people like me are labeled as "haters" or "Nazis" if we desire the same. Furethermore, are there any organizations of Asians who oppose affirmative action for Asians, so that they can be more "normal"?
You know, I wonder if this fear of being a white minority is very much poetic justice?

Nah. If you've done nothing wrong while in the majority, then there's nothing to worry about in being a minority.
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Old 01-02-2008, 09:48 AM
 
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I think a pragmatic approach might be in order. For the next 10 years, approve immigration applications of higher skilled people. When the workforce inevitably changes and the Boomers have mostly retired, there would be enough skilled folks to fill the voids. Once that's stabilized, we might decide that we want to accept a set number of low-skilled applicants from other countries.
Good idea. The most important thing about immigration to me is that it HELPS AMERICANS. It should be for the good of Americans, since we are the ones effected by all this, and it's our country - we fight the wars, we pay the taxes!

So, we should go back to skill-based immigration (before 1965, which started the "chain migration" we have now). The question should be, "how does this person help American citizens"?

And as far as the "color" thing goes - it's not color, it's culture, and class. The important thing is that they maintain American values - hard work, education, paying taxes, respecting your fellow citizens, contributing to society, and not taking from it. And, not breaking the law by coming in illegally!
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