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Old 11-21-2014, 09:16 PM
 
Location: SoCal & Mid-TN
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There is no amnesty. Congress funds ICE with enough $ to deport about 400K people a year so prioritizing so the worst go is a no brainer. New arrivals are the first to go back. Make employers use e-verify. Stop getting a guy in front of Home Depot to do work cheap and under the table. Fund ICE so they have more money (and judges - because they are so backlogged now it's laughable) to do more deportations.
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:59 PM
 
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I'm not a advocate of using violence on our southern border but sometimes it might be called for. What if ISIS were coming through there? How do we detect a regular illegal alien from a terrorist? Still, "stop or I'll shoot" would be the appropriate thing to do first in other words warn first. Terrorists are human also but what has that to do with anything? Most of these illegal aliens aren't desperate either. Think about it.
You are correct and most look somewhat overweight already, including the young kids. Certainly not hungry, health issues most likely. Strange one can walk 1000's of miles and have clean clothes and makeup on when they arrive.

Wonder if President Obama considered these things when he quoted Exodus: These are there also.......

“Do not allow the sorceress to live.”

“If a man seduces a virgin who is not pledged to be married and sleeps with her, he must pay the bride-price, and she shall be his wife.” So, all you guys who have sex with a girl you’re not married to—you need to put a ring on it.

In Exodus 23, just a few verses above “You shall not oppress a stranger” is “Do not kill the innocent.” Is Obama going to take executive action and overturn Roe v. Wade?

It would, however, be prudent for anyone cheering Obama’s executive overreach to contemplate that if the president can act because Congress won’t on immigration, he sets a precedent for a future Republican president to do the same. Imagine this: the GOP president in 2017 makes a speech about how the Bible says we shouldn’t kill the innocent, and with a stroke of his pen, he makes abortion illegal. I can just hear the howls of protest then.

We are a people bound together through laws—laws made, not by the despotic decree of a president who quotes religious texts, but by Congress, representing the will of the people. If Obama is going to turn to Scripture for guidance, maybe he should turn to Proverbs 11:14: “For lack of guidance a nation falls, but victory is won through many advisers.”

Sorry, President Obama: Scripture Doesn
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Old 11-21-2014, 11:01 PM
 
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There is no amnesty. Congress funds ICE with enough $ to deport about 400K people a year so prioritizing so the worst go is a no brainer. New arrivals are the first to go back. Make employers use e-verify. Stop getting a guy in front of Home Depot to do work cheap and under the table. Fund ICE so they have more money (and judges - because they are so backlogged now it's laughable) to do more deportations.
Yup...

I know where I live, no one is "living in the shadows"... illegal aliens are blended in and go about their business with very little problem. The population here would literally need to stop going to any restaurant, stop going to a car wash, stop hiring gardeners or house cleaners etc. if they wanted to stop enabling illegal aliens.

I really don't think people realize how easy it is to contribute to the problem without a second thought. The last restaurant I worked at in Newport Beach, Ca. I had some regulars I was friendly with start talking about illegal aliens and how "the government should be doing something about it" yada yada. I pointed out that the meal I just served them was made by a guy who just got back from Mexico after visiting his family. I also told him he got caught a few times at the border so it took him a few weeks to get back to work.
Loved the expression on their faces... well, duh! (my manager told me he's sure about 1/3 of the company's employees in our area were probably illegal. )

Most of our customers were pretty well off, a bit older and from what I could tell from chatting with them, on the conservative side, but hey... they just want a sandwich. Just like the guy who picked up some extra hands in front of Home Depot to help with some project at his house. He just needs a guy for a few hours, and doesn't want to pay an arm and a leg for some professional. Who in our area might just be a legal guy who hires illegals in front of Home Depot for an extra pair of hands.
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Old 11-21-2014, 11:28 PM
 
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You are correct and most look somewhat overweight already, including the young kids. Certainly not hungry, health issues most likely. Strange one can walk 1000's of miles and have clean clothes and makeup on when they arrive.

They have clean clothes and make-up on because the coyotes tell them to change their clothes and clean up before they hit civilization. All those tons of trash that they leave on fragile desert eco-systems consists of their dirty clothes---and human waste.

They change clothes so that they blend in when they hit civilization.
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Old 11-22-2014, 04:52 AM
 
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Yup...

I know where I live, no one is "living in the shadows"... illegal aliens are blended in and go about their business with very little problem. The population here would literally need to stop going to any restaurant, stop going to a car wash, stop hiring gardeners or house cleaners etc. if they wanted to stop enabling illegal aliens.

I really don't think people realize how easy it is to contribute to the problem without a second thought. The last restaurant I worked at in Newport Beach, Ca. I had some regulars I was friendly with start talking about illegal aliens and how "the government should be doing something about it" yada yada. I pointed out that the meal I just served them was made by a guy who just got back from Mexico after visiting his family. I also told him he got caught a few times at the border so it took him a few weeks to get back to work.
Loved the expression on their faces... well, duh! (my manager told me he's sure about 1/3 of the company's employees in our area were probably illegal. )

Most of our customers were pretty well off, a bit older and from what I could tell from chatting with them, on the conservative side, but hey... they just want a sandwich. Just like the guy who picked up some extra hands in front of Home Depot to help with some project at his house. He just needs a guy for a few hours, and doesn't want to pay an arm and a leg for some professional. Who in our area might just be a legal guy who hires illegals in front of Home Depot for an extra pair of hands.
I agree that Americans need to stop hiring illegal aliens however the majority of Americans don't do that. As for going to a restaurant to eat what is a person supposed to do go back to the kitchen and ask for ID that proves that their help is here legally? Come on, we don't have the right to do that nor is it our job to do that. It is the responsibility of the owner of the business to make sure they hire legitimate workers.
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Old 11-22-2014, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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This is so disgusting, but not unbelievable. Illegals are scum.
A bunch of damn welfare queens & losers. The only thing worse is Obama. He's some real scum. I hope they impeach his sorry azs.
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Old 11-23-2014, 05:30 AM
 
Location: In the Light of His Love
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A bunch of damn welfare queens & losers. The only thing worse is Obama. He's some real scum. I hope they impeach his sorry azs.
Have you thought that through? Joe Biden would be president. WE must find a way to take them both out at the same time so that the Speaker of The House would be The President.
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