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Old 11-13-2014, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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It looks like Obama will soon be using his poison pen very soon to inflict pain on America.
I just don't get it. How can letting millions of illegal aliens who are breaking our laws already and know it be anything but a negative for America in granting them amnesty and allowing them to stay?
From what I have seen, read and heard there are no positives. There might be positives in the game that is politics but what are the positives for America?
Can someone who believes in giving amnesty to millions give me positive examples of why this is a good idea.
Try to convince me and the millions of citizens who think amnesty is a bad idea.
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Old 11-13-2014, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Rhode Island
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He's threatening it because the REPUBs have stonewalled all attempts at passing any reform bill. White House press secretary Josh Earnest told reporters on Friday that Obama will proceed with an executive order unless the House acts by December on the reform the Senate passed last year.

I could be wrong but I do not think the REPUBS proposed any counter legislation to help solve the issue.
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Old 11-13-2014, 02:53 PM
 
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He's threatening it because the REPUBs have stonewalled all attempts at passing any reform bill. White House press secretary Josh Earnest told reporters on Friday that Obama will proceed with an executive order unless the House acts by December on the reform the Senate passed last year.

I could be wrong but I do not think the REPUBS proposed any counter legislation to help solve the issue.
Actually, they did but Obama and the Dems didn't like what they proposed. There is no reform bill that came out of congress anyway only amnesty. Amnesty does not solve the issue and in fact it will only make the problem worse.
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Old 11-13-2014, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Pa
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He's threatening it because the REPUBs have stonewalled all attempts at passing any reform bill. White House press secretary Josh Earnest told reporters on Friday that Obama will proceed with an executive order unless the House acts by December on the reform the Senate passed last year.

I could be wrong but I do not think the REPUBS proposed any counter legislation to help solve the issue.
Not stonewalling any reform. Stonewalling a very bad reform bill.
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Old 11-13-2014, 04:46 PM
 
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This will hurt white Americans the most. Why aren't they making a stand against it? If you all tolerate it then dont complain later on.
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Old 11-13-2014, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Where I live.
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This will hurt white Americans the most. Why aren't they making a stand against it? If you all tolerate it then dont complain later on.
It will hurt ALL of America, not only whites. But that's the whole point. Obama wants to make this country MUCH LESS white than it is, though that's most often the unspoken 800-lb gorilla in the room.

Handouts. welfare, illegal drivers, 3-4 families living in a house meant for 1 family with the resultant filth--breeding like rats and rabbits.....

Bad enough that they leave their trash all over places where they are crossing. The filth and trash they spread all over the place is disgusting, and so are the Third-world diseases they bring.

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors...m#.VGVJeWd0zDc
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Old 11-13-2014, 05:16 PM
 
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This will hurt white Americans the most. Why aren't they making a stand against it? If you all tolerate it then dont complain later on.
Uh; it's hurting Blacks and many American Hispanics worse than most anglo white people.
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Old 11-13-2014, 05:20 PM
 
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This will hurt white Americans the most. Why aren't they making a stand against it? If you all tolerate it then dont complain later on.
It hurts all Americans and the majority taking a stance against illegal immigration and amnesty are whites except for the bleeding heart liberal types.
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Old 11-13-2014, 05:20 PM
 
Location: US
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The deal breaker was not closing the border and the cost. It was a pretty good bill the Gang of Eight, a hand-picked bi-partisan group, proposed, but you will see a comment by Rubio about not having another wave of illegal immigrants come into the country (closing the border) and a few other issues. It is a very difficult bill to pass. The very first thing that needs to happen is to close the border which would require restoring the border patrol and not hamstringing them as has been done.

Immigration Bill Chugs Along, But Some See Deal-Breakers : It's All Politics : NPR

I really hope Obama does not enter an EO as he is threatening to do. The backlash would be horrible. He's not in a good place since he made commitments.

PS: I would really like to see Obama put together another group or restore the Gang of Eight and really work to overcome the objections and get some concessions. It would go a long way.
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Old 11-13-2014, 05:28 PM
 
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He's threatening it because the REPUBs have stonewalled all attempts at passing any reform bill. White House press secretary Josh Earnest told reporters on Friday that Obama will proceed with an executive order unless the House acts by December on the reform the Senate passed last year.

I could be wrong but I do not think the REPUBS proposed any counter legislation to help solve the issue.
You could be and you are wrong, anything the Republicans have proposed has ended up sitting on Harry Reid's desk for years now. Obama is huffing and puffing about an executive order because he knows the bull**** he wants to push through would be hated by the American people and in turn by their representatives.
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