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Old 11-23-2014, 04:18 PM
 
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To give our country away based on some assumed math rather than enforcing the rule of law and putting the needs of our own citizens first is traitorous. I'd rather be a so-called coward than a traitor to my country any day of the week.

 
Old 11-23-2014, 04:20 PM
 
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To give our country away based on math rather than the rule of law and the needs of our own citizens is traitorous. I'd rather be a so-called coward than a traitor to my own country any day.
Thank you, Oldglory! I feel the same way!
 
Old 11-23-2014, 05:14 PM
 
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Glad you are at least acknowledging the horrific math issue, OldGlory..as opposed to pretending it does not exist.

Fortunately for the party, they have so far avoided the over the top rhetoric-at least amongst those in it who actually have a future.
 
Old 11-23-2014, 06:00 PM
 
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Reality has a well-known liberal bias. Never was that more evident than in reading the lockstep rejection of evidence by the right in the responses to your posts in this thread.
Uh; quite a few "liberals" DON'T want any kind of amnesty at all, it ain't just a "conservative thing". Sheesh!
 
Old 11-23-2014, 06:13 PM
 
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Uh; quite a few "liberals" DON'T want any kind of amnesty at all, it ain't just a "conservative thing". Sheesh!
Learn to read in context. That was a response to the math challenged conservatives here who refuse to acknowledge the issues outlined in in bobtn's posts.
 
Old 11-23-2014, 06:25 PM
 
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Learn to read in context. That was a response to the math challenged conservatives here who refuse to acknowledge the issues outlined in in bobtn's posts.
Who, specifically, is a "conservative"? Just because someone is against illegal immigration doesn't necessarily make one a "conservative". Some liberals, as well as independents, are vehemently against illegal immigration. You have to learn to not stereotype.

Who is "math challenged"? I think it is those who believe that 10% is some huge number. Now if you said "90%", well, yeah, that is a huge number.
 
Old 11-23-2014, 06:36 PM
 
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10% is a huge number, Bos, as you need to recall 39 states plus DC have shown they are not up for grabs. They voted the same way 7 straight times.

Swing states have stayed inside a narrow window, with the norm being just a few % gap winner vs loser. That makes a 5-5.5% plurality via one demographic group (46 point margin and 11-12% of POTUS vote..not 10%) gigantic.

Your post displays a nave belief that 100% of votes are available, even w/o Latinos. They are not, all states have red and blue regions, swing states in particular have small margins to play with.
 
Old 11-23-2014, 07:24 PM
 
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Who, specifically, is a "conservative"? Just because someone is against illegal immigration doesn't necessarily make one a "conservative". Some liberals, as well as independents, are vehemently against illegal immigration. You have to learn to not stereotype.

Who is "math challenged"? I think it is those who believe that 10% is some huge number. Now if you said "90%", well, yeah, that is a huge number.
According to them unless you are willing to give up your country to a bunch of illegal, law breaking foreigners and their ethnocentric supporters you are "math challenged". I'd rather be math challenged than a traitor to my country.
 
Old 11-23-2014, 07:29 PM
 
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Wrong, OldGlory, what makes some math challenged is not recognizing it is an either-or choice. Provide a pathway to citizenship for millions who have been here and stayed inside all other laws extended periods of time, or compete for the office of POTUS. Not recognizing them as being mutually exclusive qualifies some here as math challenged.

The danger of not competing for POTUS is watching EOs be utilized to do some of what you abhor anyway.
 
Old 11-23-2014, 07:42 PM
 
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Thank you, Oldglory. If I could rep you again, I would.

I never thought that I would live to see the day when politicians found it acceptable to pander to lawbreakers in an attempt to get votes. That this is happening, is so very sad
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