U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Illegal Immigration
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 11-17-2014, 11:44 AM
 
62,397 posts, read 27,771,221 times
Reputation: 7867

Advertisements

Obama on illegal immigration in his book, The Audacity of Hope:
Quote:
"There's no denying that many blacks share the same anxieties as many whites about the wave of illegal immigration flooding our Southern border—a sense that what’s happening now is fundamentally different from what has gone on before.

Not all these fears are irrational.

The number of immigrants added to the labor force every year is of a magnitude not seen in this country for over a century. If this huge influx of mostly low-skill workers provides some benefits to the economy as a whole—especially by keeping our workforce young, in contrast to an increasingly geriatric Europe and Japan—it also threatens to depress further the wages of blue-collar Americans and put strains on an already overburdened safety net."
Obama: Illegal Immigration Hurts 'Blue-Collar Americans'

Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 11-17-2014, 12:19 PM
 
Location: DFW - Coppell / Las Colinas
29,926 posts, read 34,535,636 times
Reputation: 35921
Wouldn't it be great if Obama would come out today and explain some of his videos and comments from before his election.
There are half a dozen videos why he can't change laws with EO's and the Constitution. Now he is doing just what he said he could not do.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-17-2014, 12:37 PM
 
31,495 posts, read 14,573,470 times
Reputation: 8355
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rakin View Post
Wouldn't it be great if Obama would come out today and explain some of his videos and comments from before his election.
There are half a dozen videos why he can't change laws with EO's and the Constitution. Now he is doing just what he said he could not do.
I question why the GOP in particular doesn't ask him about his past words. It would be a good political move on their part.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-17-2014, 02:00 PM
 
3,533 posts, read 2,171,725 times
Reputation: 1886
Obama does not need to win another election and I think part of his last 2 years in office will be spent taking out the Dems as well. I have mentioned this in several posts: I think he wants to form his own ultra liberal party.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-17-2014, 03:04 PM
 
8,798 posts, read 9,623,537 times
Reputation: 6692
I think he is hedging his bet that many conservatives believe that border security and immigration reform are two separate issues. That means if the GOP has anything to do with it, there will be no immigration reform because the idea that the border can be secured got us where we are at today. I do find it a little odd that the same people who criticized him for being the " deporter in Chief" are now complaining that he is taking measures to ease deportations.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-17-2014, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Pa
20,310 posts, read 18,884,971 times
Reputation: 6517
Border security need not be an armed, mined stretch of land. Remove the bait and you remove the desire to come here.
What we can do is enforce our labor laws. As it stands it is very difficult to hammer an employer for hiring illegals. Make E-Verify the law of land for every level of employment and jobs will dry up for illegals. After a few employers pay through the nose, most will be unwilling to risk getting caught. Yes you will have some who continue these practices, but far less.
Reform. Reform should never be in the form of a reward for criminal behavior. As the Nation that allows more legal immigration than all other nations combined, we really don't owe it to anyone to lower our standards. In fact we owe it to ourselves to raise the standards.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-20-2014, 04:41 AM
 
8,798 posts, read 9,623,537 times
Reputation: 6692
How many people really expect Republicans to reform something ...anything? The word reform is not in the conservative lexicon. It is antithetical to what conservatism is. Reforming something means to move in the opposite direction of the status quo. The president knows this and he knows that when they are in control they will have to replace his executive action with something else. Republicans should thank him for forcing their hand and making them do something they know should be done but their constituents don’t want done. His executive action sounds eerily like something Newt was proposing during his primary challenge.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-20-2014, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Sale Creek, TN
3,800 posts, read 3,429,946 times
Reputation: 3985
Reform? What needs to be reformed about our immigration policy? There isn't millions of people on the other side of the border wanting to immigrate, but can't because of a flawed system that won't allow them to immigrate. What we have are millions of illegal immigrants already here, they bypassed the system and are about to be rewarded.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-20-2014, 10:27 AM
 
11,287 posts, read 16,811,646 times
Reputation: 5517
Quote:
Originally Posted by Creekcat View Post
Reform? What needs to be reformed about our immigration policy? There isn't millions of people on the other side of the border wanting to immigrate, but can't because of a flawed system that won't allow them to immigrate. What we have are millions of illegal immigrants already here, they bypassed the system and are about to be rewarded.
Bravo!

I get tired of the "Immigration System is broken" mantra. Nonsense.

We have a number of laws on the books as well as a myriad of Visa types. A large portion of a large government bureacracy is dedicated to enforcing such laws.

They do not.

If you enfocred the laws, you would still have lots of cheap workers from programmers to grape pickers.

How many more do we need?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-20-2014, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
86,093 posts, read 69,893,919 times
Reputation: 27519
It's actually a huge influx of third world country people. Little to no education and no skills past manual labor.

This is the future of America.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Illegal Immigration
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2018, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top