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Old 11-19-2014, 05:39 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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He is not going to be impeached and if the GOP has any brains they will cut a deal for a good resolution to the immigration reform. They should not pass the crap passed by the Senate first go around but they are out of time coming up with a better solution. Too late to save what is left of America and you are getting a front row seat to the fall of a nation.
The only "deal" they've been offered is the toothless senate plan which is essentially amnesty now for millions with lip service about strengthening the border security in the future.
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Old 11-20-2014, 10:33 AM
 
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Republicans have had 2 yr to work on a comprehensive immigration bill but republicans have been like hell no we do not even bring this issue up. Time is over so now these lazy republicans are pretty much forcing Obama to take executive action on his own. I think the main reason republicans do not like immigration reform is because when all the people become citizens and they start to vote they will vote democrat. If republicans fight Obama over this like they have already claimed they republicans will start to die off they will be unelectable for the next 10 to 14 yrs and next 2 presidents will be democrat.
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Old 11-20-2014, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Great Falls, VA
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Republicans have had 2 yr to work on a comprehensive immigration bill but republicans have been like hell no we do not even bring this issue up. Time is over so now these lazy republicans are pretty much forcing Obama to take executive action on his own. I think the main reason republicans do not like immigration reform is because when all the people become citizens and they start to vote they will vote democrat. If republicans fight Obama over this like they have already claimed they republicans will start to die off they will be unelectable for the next 10 to 14 yrs and next 2 presidents will be democrat.
But that's the thing, it doesn't matter if they had 2 or 50 years to pass a comprehensive immigration bill. If the people they are representing don't want to have immigration reform, then the job of the House of Representatives is to block immigration reform. How do people not understand that? Republicans are under no obligation to pass immigration reform.

Congress cannot and should not be blackmailed to pass the reform. Which is exactly what the President is doing right now: "You don't want to do it? You better, because if not, I'm going to force something you'll hate even more down your throat".
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Old 11-20-2014, 10:47 AM
 
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Republicans are just pandering to there base to the Faux Snooze Rush and Beck Crowd that does not make up most americans
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Old 11-20-2014, 02:44 PM
 
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Republicans have had 2 yr to work on a comprehensive immigration bill but republicans have been like hell no we do not even bring this issue up. Time is over so now these lazy republicans are pretty much forcing Obama to take executive action on his own. I think the main reason republicans do not like immigration reform is because when all the people become citizens and they start to vote they will vote democrat. If republicans fight Obama over this like they have already claimed they republicans will start to die off they will be unelectable for the next 10 to 14 yrs and next 2 presidents will be democrat.
No, what the GOP has been refusing to do is produce an amnesty bill because that's exactly what CIR is. Why would there be a need for a bill that isn't in the best interests of our own citizens? Why not just enforce the laws on the books?

Of course the GOP knows that making citizens of these illegals will just create more Democrats. On the other hand how is it any different on the Democrat's part to desire citizenship for them to increase their voting base?

I see, so unless the GOP thumbs their noses at our immigration laws they wont' be electable anymore? Read that slowly. There is something wrong with that picture.
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Old 11-20-2014, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Texas
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How is any of this a surprise? Abbott has made his career on suing the Obama administration. As of 2012, he had sued the administration 24 times, with 8 losses, 5 wins, and 2 cases dismissed (with the rest still pending).
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Old 11-20-2014, 02:58 PM
 
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Republicans are just pandering to there base to the Faux Snooze Rush and Beck Crowd that does not make up most americans
What tripe!

I assume you watch Fox News because, after all, you seem to know exactly what their programming is like. Perhaps you can give us some details. After all, I don't watch Fox News.

What makes you think the "most Americans" want amnesty for illegals? You really need to read the comments sections that newspapers have. When ever there is an article about illegals (usually some sob story) the vast majority of commenters are clearly against amnesty. Even in very left-leaning publications, you can observe this.
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Old 11-20-2014, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Southeast, where else?
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Republicans have had 2 yr to work on a comprehensive immigration bill but republicans have been like hell no we do not even bring this issue up. Time is over so now these lazy republicans are pretty much forcing Obama to take executive action on his own. I think the main reason republicans do not like immigration reform is because when all the people become citizens and they start to vote they will vote democrat. If republicans fight Obama over this like they have already claimed they republicans will start to die off they will be unelectable for the next 10 to 14 yrs and next 2 presidents will be democrat.

Yeah, it's not like they tried sending bills to Reid to get them honestly reviewed or anything like that
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Old 11-20-2014, 03:19 PM
 
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But that's the thing, it doesn't matter if they had 2 or 50 years to pass a comprehensive immigration bill. If the people they are representing don't want to have immigration reform, then the job of the House of Representatives is to block immigration reform. How do people not understand that? Republicans are under no obligation to pass immigration reform.

Congress cannot and should not be blackmailed to pass the reform. Which is exactly what the President is doing right now: "You don't want to do it? You better, because if not, I'm going to force something you'll hate even more down your throat".
I think that's where moderates and conservatives are losing their patience with the idiot in the Blight House. He IS blackmailing Congress.

This should be about what is best for the CITIZENS of the United States, not what is best for Barack Obama, the Democratic party, or the Republican party.

Obama sucks (in DC, just like he did in Chi-town), but politics suck even more.
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Old 11-20-2014, 04:51 PM
 
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I think that's where moderates and conservatives are losing their patience with the idiot in the Blight House. He IS blackmailing Congress.

This should be about what is best for the CITIZENS of the United States, not what is best for Barack Obama, the Democratic party, or the Republican party.

Obama sucks (in DC, just like he did in Chi-town), but politics suck even more.
Agreed. Obama's a disgrace IMHO.
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