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Old 12-04-2014, 06:12 PM
 
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You can see the rates they offer their H1Bs. Not even close to minimum wage. Hovering around $100k

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A nice cherry picked link, that goes to the HP list. Pick another company, or do the search without a company. You will see software engineers going for 60K in california.
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Old 12-04-2014, 07:42 PM
 
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" Emperor Obama is in charge" one of his big deals when he first ran was that he was going to stop all that nonsense. He didn't do jack squatt about it (of course). Because the large corporations paid for him to become president in the first place.
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Old 12-07-2014, 04:23 AM
 
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That $30/hour opportunity is also available for American college graduates...get the experience and join the company or a competitor full time
Where?
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Old 12-07-2014, 06:29 AM
 
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Who cares ? Most H-1Bs are being paid a small percentage of the billing rate. I worked with H-1Bs at a Big 4 firm who were being paid $30/hour and being billed at $110.

The key point remains - they should not be here in the first place.
Clearly you don't know how Visa applications work. The rate on the application is what the individual is paid. If there is a margin in the billing rate (which would only exist for consultants), that's on top of what is on the visa application.

I agree that they shouldn't be here in the first place. We should learn to produce competent people ourselves. But until we do, it's in our best interest to make sure with have enough talent here to be innovative.
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Old 12-07-2014, 06:34 AM
 
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A nice cherry picked link, that goes to the HP list. Pick another company, or do the search without a company. You will see software engineers going for 60K in california.
HP is one of the top offenders of the H1B program. Take a look at the other two big offenders: Netflix and Microsoft. You'll see that the rates are just as high.
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Old 12-07-2014, 11:52 AM
 
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Clearly you don't know how Visa applications work. The rate on the application is what the individual is paid. If there is a margin in the billing rate (which would only exist for consultants), that's on top of what is on the visa application.

I agree that they shouldn't be here in the first place. We should learn to produce competent people ourselves. But until we do, it's in our best interest to make sure with have enough talent here to be innovative.
^We do "produce competent people ourselves". However, far too many get passed over in favor of H1-Bs. Many Indians who got H1-Bs and now have green cards, are in positions where they do the hiring---and they blatantly discriminate against non-Indians.

Sadly, too many talented youth are being dissuaded from entering STEM/IT fields because of the H1-B program.
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Old 12-07-2014, 05:36 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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^We do "produce competent people ourselves". However, far too many get passed over in favor of H1-Bs. Many Indians who got H1-Bs and now have green cards, are in positions where they do the hiring---and they blatantly discriminate against non-Indians.

Sadly, too many talented youth are being dissuaded from entering STEM/IT fields because of the H1-B program.
Agreed. I've seen it over and over with my own two eyes. Put an Indian in charge and within a year or two you'll have a team that's almost 100% Indian, with ALL new hires being Indian.

I can't believe this kind of discrimination is allowed to persist unabated. White guilt, maybe?

I get asked for career advice from time to time. My advice to people wanting to get into IT is: Don't.
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Old 12-07-2014, 08:00 PM
 
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HP is one of the top offenders of the H1B program. Take a look at the other two big offenders: Netflix and Microsoft. You'll see that the rates are just as high.
Check Intel

also for fun....if you research you will find that the salaries listed are about 10% below the median pay for the companies.

Sooo yeah. Thats how you pull down salary rates.

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Old 12-07-2014, 09:14 PM
 
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Check Intel

also for fun....if you research you will find that the salaries listed are about 10% below the median pay for the companies.

Sooo yeah. Thats how you pull down salary rates.
The "Prevailing Wages" listed are national salaries. They don't take into consideration specific companies or region. Which is one problem.

Keep in mind that these are visa applications.

Intel Corporation H1B Visa Petitions 2014 : Visadoor.com

Intel looks just fine.
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Old 12-07-2014, 09:17 PM
 
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^We do "produce competent people ourselves". However, far too many get passed over in favor of H1-Bs. Many Indians who got H1-Bs and now have green cards, are in positions where they do the hiring---and they blatantly discriminate against non-Indians.

Sadly, too many talented youth are being dissuaded from entering STEM/IT fields because of the H1-B program.
This is a common misconception. There's some absurd assumption that just because we produce college graduates, that means that they are competent. Take a look at how many quality people we actually produce. Yes, we're limited to only a handful of decent schools like Stanford, MIT, UMich, UCB, etc.... but they aren't able to produce what we need.
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