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Old 11-20-2014, 09:04 PM
 
Location: NJ
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antarez, The SS # will make them obey the law. They are not invisible with it. It also will mean natives will not be more expensive to employers simply due to taxation.

Youe employer's FEIN (Federal employer ID) is analigious to an individual's SS #. keeps government up to date with monitoring tax payments.

Ca-ching.
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Old 11-20-2014, 09:05 PM
 
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This is the flag setup Obama prefers BTW.
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Old 11-20-2014, 09:09 PM
 
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antarez, The SS # will make them obey the law. They are not invisible with it. It also will mean natives will not be more expensive to employers simply due to taxation.

Youe employer's FEIN (Federal employer ID) is anaigious to an individual's SS #. keeps government up to date with monitoring tax payments.

Ca-ching.
Yeah sure, just presto and now they will follow the laws just like they always didn't.

Now they will start working on sneaking in friends and relatives aided and financed by their now "legal" employment.

Rinse and repeat for a future Dem amnesty at a later date.

Just like last time, you really need to buy a clue!
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Old 11-20-2014, 09:10 PM
 
Location: CA
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They could have gotten an itin number before so don't believe that baloney. Why would anyone pay taxes if they aren't forced to.
That's right - i.e., I -think- if they are J1 visitor, they can get SSN (stamped on card) "not for employment authorization" (or something similar), and so they can be paid a stipend, or other non-wage payments - travel reimbursement, etc. Something like that, as I recall - used to work at a university that hosted some J1 scholars and visitors. However, those were of the 'legal' variety.
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Old 11-20-2014, 09:14 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Wake up, antarez, giving them SS #s means $$$$$..simply because employers are not going to be fined to save them from paying taxes. It means those folks waiting outside Lowes paid cash..well that kind of job (cash basis) went bye-bye.

You collect taxes by attaching an id number to every employee. The employer is your cop on that issue. He rats them out to save his ****.
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Old 11-20-2014, 09:21 PM
 
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Wake up, antarez, giving them SS #s means $$$$$..simply because employers are not going to be fined to save them from paying taxes. It means those folks waiting outside Lowes paid cash..well that kind of job (cash basis) went bye-bye.

You collect taxes by attaching an id number to every employee. The employer is your cop on that issue. He rats them out to save his ****.
YOU actually need to wake up, welfare and social services for these parasites and millions more that they will help get in.

Where is Obama's enforcement measures? Border security? The "employer" are now going to report themselves???

Past behavior is indicative of future behavior.

No sense in debating someone that is living in abject denial.

Have a nice day.
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Old 11-20-2014, 09:25 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Employers antarez provide the government with a quarterly report (data format if >250 emps) with ss numbers, names, and quarterly earnings.

That is done both to properly pay both employer and employee FICA taxes, plus to calculate Unemployment compensation earnings basis, if applicable.

If an employer fails to file, they are economically fried. Educate yourself. It is an Employer's 941 form, available on the IRS web site. Your SS statement is based on those reported earnings.
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Old 11-20-2014, 09:31 PM
 
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bob---If you think that illegals are now going to stop hanging out at Home Depot and 7-11 in hopes of getting a job, well, then I have some oceanfront property in AZ to sell to you.
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Old 11-20-2014, 09:33 PM
 
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BOS2IAD, Let them hang out. The difference now is employers will have to report their earnings, and pay taxes (both employer and employee) on them, with the air of invisibility gone. That means they will not be cheaper due solely to these tax issues.
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Old 11-20-2014, 10:03 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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BOS2IAD, Let them hang out. The difference now is employers will have to report their earnings, and pay taxes (both employer and employee) on them, with the air of invisibility gone. That means they will not be cheaper due solely to these tax issues.
Hahahahahahhahahahahhaa...wait ahahahahahahahhahaa

Ever heard of "contractors"? Fake numbers all herded in and given to the employer and then hire illegals off the street. Thousands of illegal businesses do this. 50 people can work on one fake number. How do they tie a number to a body? They can't.
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