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Old 12-26-2014, 08:10 PM
 
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We need a system like Canada's to bring in agricultural workers. http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...story.html.The workers get paid decently and get retirement benefits, but no permanent residency. If employers want to bring in illegals to cheap out on wages, fine them double or triple the difference between what they should pay and what they did, since we can't hang them.
The H-2A visas for unlimited foreign, ag workers is already in place.
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Old 12-26-2014, 08:18 PM
 
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The H-2A visas for unlimited foreign, ag workers is already in place.
^That, of course, is quite correct.

The problem is, pvande, there are sleazy farmers who refuse to use the visa program and instead opt for cheap, exploitable, illegal labor. They are the same farmers who were whining about their crops supposedly rotting in the fields when AL and GA got tough on illegals. Funny how the farmers who used the guest worker visa had no such problems.
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Old 12-27-2014, 10:26 AM
 
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^That, of course, is quite correct.

The problem is, pvande, there are sleazy farmers who refuse to use the visa program and instead opt for cheap, exploitable, illegal labor. They are the same farmers who were whining about their crops supposedly rotting in the fields when AL and GA got tough on illegals. Funny how the farmers who used the guest worker visa had no such problems.
Those same farmers are also the people who are not offering a wage that "the market" is demanding. If they want Americans to pick crops, they're gonna have to raise their wage offerings. Simple as that. Supply and demand
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Old 12-27-2014, 01:55 PM
 
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Those same farmers are also the people who are not offering a wage that "the market" is demanding. If they want Americans to pick crops, they're gonna have to raise their wage offerings. Simple as that. Supply and demand
Agreed, especially with food prices jumping like crazy. Someone's making out like a fat rat and it ain't the farm workers, illegal alien or not IMHO.
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Old 12-27-2014, 03:02 PM
 
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Very few Americans are willing to pick crops for a living no matter what it pays. It is back breaking, work out in the sun all day and the body will just not hold up. That is why those visas are in place. But of course some of the greedy growers bypass them and hire illegal aliens instead to increase their profits.
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Old 12-27-2014, 03:04 PM
 
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Very few Americans are willing to pick crops for a living no matter what it pays. It is back breaking, work out in the sun all day and the body will just not hold up. That is why those visas are in place. But of course some of the greedy growers bypass them and hire illegal aliens instead to increase their profits.
If talking about 15 dollars an hour plus medical care; IMHO a LOT of us would be out there doing it, even if only part time.
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Old 12-27-2014, 03:38 PM
 
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If talking about 15 dollars an hour plus medical care; IMHO a LOT of us would be out there doing it, even if only part time.
Not as a career though. Many Americans live in the city or suburbs that aren't near farmlands either.
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Old 12-27-2014, 05:08 PM
 
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Not as a career though. Many Americans live in the city or suburbs that aren't near farmlands either.
Agreed tho in the rural areas; a 15 an hour job is real nice to have. Here in Bullhead a person can live real well on that kind of money if at 40 hours a week.
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