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Old 12-06-2014, 12:43 PM
 
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I had a thought this morning: I recall being taught in High School that by voting in a foreign election you could lose your US Citizenship. I wonder how many southern state over 18 anchor babies participate in the mail in/internet Mexican elections?
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Old 12-06-2014, 12:51 PM
 
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I would even go so far as to deport the anchor babies with the parents. It is the parents job to raise their children, regardless of where they are born, not ours.
Unfortunately, under the current misinterpretation of the 14th Amendment they are considered to be U.S. citizens and can't be deported. But regardless of that minor kids belong with their parents. Their parents should return to their homeland with them.
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Old 12-06-2014, 01:06 PM
 
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Unfortunately, under the current misinterpretation of the 14th Amendment they are considered to be U.S. citizens and can't be deported. But regardless of that minor kids belong with their parents. Their parents should return to their homeland with them.
Should be no problem, the current administration ignores the law (and constitution) to suit their desires, so they could also ignore it in this case.
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Old 12-06-2014, 02:48 PM
 
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I would even go so far as to deport the anchor babies with the parents. It is the parents job to raise their children, regardless of where they are born, not ours.
We would not want to separate Families now.
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Old 12-07-2014, 02:05 AM
 
Location: Out West
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Only ONE border state out of the whole bunch at this point.

That one does surprise me--I wouldn't expect liberal illegal-alien loving California to go along with this, but I was really surprised that AZ and possibly NM didn't. Susana Martinez (NM gov) tried to get NM to stop issuing drivers' licenses to illegal aliens.
Look again. Illegals come from more than just Mexico. My state is on it, and we border a foreign country.
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Old 12-07-2014, 09:27 AM
 
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You must remember that something is only illegal if Obama declares it so and sets his pet DOJ to spinning laws to make it so.
There is no spinning this law. It's clearly a federal offense to harbor, or aid or abet the harboring of illegal aliens in the U.S. That's what Obama has done by issuing the illegal immigration EOs. Obama himself is aiding or abetting the harboring of illegal aliens in the U.S. Obama is committing federal offenses.


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Old 12-07-2014, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Where I live.
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Look again. Illegals come from more than just Mexico. My state is on it, and we border a foreign country.
I'm very well aware of that fact. As a border county, we have seen OTMs (other than Mexican) from both European and Eastern/Asian countries picked up and detained by the Border Patrol.

But the fact remains that around 80-85% of those breaking and entering are from Mexico, with a smaller number from countries south of same.
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Old 12-07-2014, 09:54 AM
 
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Should be an easy case to win. Obama's EOs on illegal immigration are unlawful. It's a federal offense to harbor, or aid or abet the harboring of illegal aliens in the U.S.

8 U.S. Code 1324 - Bringing in and harboring certain aliens | LII / Legal Information Institute

Obama's EOs on illegal immigration are acts of aiding and abetting the harboring of illegal aliens in the U.S. That is clearly illegal. The U.S. President does not have the authority to issue an EO that violates federal law. In fact, Obama himself should be prosecuted for issuing those EOs. He's directly committed federal offenses in doing so.
Except that every president since Eisenhower has used execution actions to halt deportations of certain immigrants. President Reagan did nearly the same action for children of the illegals he granted amnesty to, and Bush Sr. did the same for illegal spouses of legal residents. If congress has ignored so many previous presidential actions on immigration, it sets a precedent they may be hard to over turn.
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Old 12-07-2014, 10:01 AM
 
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Except that every president since Eisenhower has used execution actions to halt deportations of certain immigrants. President Reagan did nearly the same action for children of the illegals he granted amnesty to, and Bush Sr. did the same for illegal spouses of legal residents. If congress has ignored so many previous presidential actions on immigration, it sets a precedent they may be hard to over turn.
Or points out that no one challenged their actions. Different this time around.
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Old 12-07-2014, 10:49 AM
 
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Except that every president since Eisenhower has used execution actions to halt deportations of certain immigrants. President Reagan did nearly the same action for children of the illegals he granted amnesty to, and Bush Sr. did the same for illegal spouses of legal residents.
This goes beyond that. Obama's EOs were not sanctioned by Congress, as Reagan's and Bush's were which permitted close family members (child/ren, spouse) of those already present in the U.S. LEGALLY to remain in the country. Reagan's and Bush's EOs only applied to those who were closely related to those whom Congress had already offered amnesty. Obama's illegal immigration EOs directly violate federal law by permitting illegal immigrants without legally present close family members to legally remain in the U.S.

By issuing those two EOs, Obama is directly committing the federal offenses of aiding and abetting the harboring of illegal aliens in the U.S.
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