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Old 01-22-2015, 04:32 AM
 
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They seem to be put above both our veterans and our seniors in regards to help needed.
I know, I just don't get it.

And yes, the seniors, thank you for mentioning them.

They do have worked hard and all their life.
Putting their sweat into this country.
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Old 01-22-2015, 04:48 AM
 
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You have no idea what you're talking about. Disabled vets get close to 3k per month. Elderly get SSI. Immigrants get nothing so tangible.

I can't believe this place has an entire forum section that's sole purpose is griping about immigrants. And are so extremely misinformed at that.
Disable Vets and Seniors are Citizens of the United States and have contributed to Society and America.

Now Illegals get Medicare, food stamps,DL and Hud housing, The average needy American Family is left holding the bag.

Poor countries like Mexico do not care except to see American Money flow back to Mexico. Period.

Illegals do not care about US law, even though their country of Origin laws are very much more aggressive.

Seal the border, with the US Army, (we have done this before in 1912) and deport with passion and expedite these proceeding to be a 3 day window. If the visa is a fraud and or most likely no permits or Visa's , should be deported. its that simple!

Those who forge produce Fraudulent Visa and passports should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Sherriff Arpaio from Arizona does a very good job of this.

Illegals make bad choices and they should take responsibility of their actions. They know exactly what they are doing.

The time for compassion is gone and we have to defend our Boarders.
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Old 01-22-2015, 06:28 AM
 
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You have no idea what you're talking about. Disabled vets get close to 3k per month. Elderly get SSI. Immigrants get nothing so tangible.

I can't believe this place has an entire forum section that's sole purpose is griping about immigrants. And are so extremely misinformed at that.
Oh yes I do know what I am talking about. I know a vet that is low income and needed help with assisted living because his health was failing and couldn't live alone anymore. It took him 2 1/2 years to get any help from the Veteran's Administration. Yes, seniors get SS but it isn't enough to cover nursing home costs, etc. when their health is failing. They have to be dead broke to get any help.

The topic here isn't "immigrants". We are speaking of illegal aliens and as another poster pointed out they seem to be able to get all kinds of help. No, this forum isn't about griping about "immigrants". It's about objecting to those here illegally. Those who defend them are the ones who are extremely misinformed and I question why they would defend them in any way.
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Old 01-22-2015, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Long Neck,De
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You have no idea what you're talking about. Disabled vets get close to 3k per month. Elderly get SSI. Immigrants get nothing so tangible.

I can't believe this place has an entire forum section that's sole purpose is griping about immigrants. And are so extremely misinformed at that.
Maybe YOU should get your fact straight.
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Old 01-22-2015, 05:03 PM
 
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You have no idea what you're talking about. Disabled vets get close to 3k per month. Elderly get SSI. Immigrants get nothing so tangible.

I can't believe this place has an entire forum section that's sole purpose is griping about immigrants. And are so extremely misinformed at that.
I DO have a problem with ILLEGAL aliens and I want their kind GONE!! Sheesh!

Legal aliens ain't the problem.
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Old 01-23-2015, 11:30 AM
 
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Those who forge produce Fraudulent Visa and passports should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Sherriff Arpaio from Arizona does a very good job of this.
can you cite any specific cases where arpaio has arrested/prosecuted visa and/or passport forgers?
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Old 01-23-2015, 01:18 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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You have no idea what you're talking about. Disabled vets get close to 3k per month. Elderly get SSI. Immigrants get nothing so tangible.

I can't believe this place has an entire forum section that's sole purpose is griping about immigrants. And are so extremely misinformed at that.
Last time most of us checked, Immigrants who came to this Country legally are substantially different then Law breakers, who believe it is acceptable to break the law, to come over to our Country.

And no not all vets, get the care they have coming, do not get my goat right now, I know some who needed help, and as of yet have not received it. They have every friggin right to come before the needs of illegals, as does our homeless, and our poor

A mighty difference between those who believe in coming to this Country as legal immigrants, versus, Law Breakers, who just do not give a damn about following laws.

My family years and years ago were Italian immigrants, who believed in becoming US Citizens, no matter how long it took, how hard it was, and thru hell and high water, they did. But it was not easy, and if you think Italian immigrants had it easy, I could write a book on what my realitives told me they went thru.

But people back then, who wanted to become immigrants, also had pride in becoming US citizens, and now followed the rules and laws of their new Country. Illegals just don't give a gosh damn, all about them, their needs their wants, their way. And they expect when they speak, we all listen, and that they get what it is they demand.

Difference between legal Immigrants and gosh damn law breaking cowards who are known as illegals.
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Old 01-23-2015, 03:14 PM
 
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I hate it when someone tries to blur the lines between legal immigrants and illegal aliens. The former applied to come here legally and patiently awaited their turn. While the latter either sneaked across a border or overstayed a visa.

All illegal aliens are liars and cheats with no moral compass. They have no business being here.

We have far too many in the senate and congress who not only refuse to enforce our immigration laws but to add insult to injury give illegals all sorts of freebies and benefits at the expense of taxpayers.

Reps and senators are lawmakers. They are supposed to enforce our laws, not coddle scofflaws. If they don't have the courage to do that, then they need to leave office. We need people in office who are NOT cowards that give into scofflaws.
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Old 01-23-2015, 03:19 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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I hate it when someone tries to blur the lines between legal immigrants and illegal aliens. The former applied to come here legally and patiently awaited their turn. While the latter either sneaked across a border or overstayed a visa.

All illegal aliens are liars and cheats with no moral compass. They have no business being here.

We have far too many in the senate and congress who not only refuse to enforce our immigration laws but to add insult to injury give illegals all sorts of freebies and benefits at the expense of taxpayers.

Reps and senators are lawmakers. They are supposed to enforce our laws, not coddle scofflaws. If they don't have the courage to do that, then they need to leave office. We need people in office who are NOT cowards that give into scofflaws.

Well said friend, well said. I agree with you also, I yet to see any one have the courage you are speaking about and on both sides. I have more respect for someone, who does speak up for what they believe is right, no matter what others think. I do not like people who take the cowardly way out, and this is what I see happening over and over again.
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Old 01-23-2015, 07:10 PM
 
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can you cite any specific cases where arpaio has arrested/prosecuted visa and/or passport forgers?
You asked and you shall receive:


by Natalie Rivers
azfamily.com
Posted on February 1, 2010 at 4:33 PM




PHOENIX - Maricopa County Sheriff's office bust identity forgery ring and arrest five illegal immigrants.

A tip through Sheriff Arpaio's illegal immigration hotline led to a six-month surveillance operation resulting in the arrests.

Two of the five illegal immigrants arrested are facing charges relating to running the forgery operation providing undocumented immigrants with fake identification. Those suspects were identified as Eduardo Chavez-Elizalde, 33, and Federico Velasco-Lopez, 33.

According to MCSO the fake ids helped the undocumented immigrants obtain employment illegally in the U.S.

During the raid that concluded the six-month investigation deputies seized computer equipment, weapons, ledgers, and hundreds of forged documents including social security cards, driver’s licenses, and permanent residency cards issued by the federal
government.



Read more: MCSO busts identity theft ring that provided ids to illegal immigrants | azfamily.com Phoenix
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