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Old 01-26-2015, 02:26 PM
 
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Thanks for posting this since some claim they aren't aware of what language is required to get hired on many jobs in this country and the ridiculous reasons for it. Yes, I also agree that if one is in the tourist industry or deals with foreign countries on the job (although English is the language of business across the world) then learning foreign languages makes sense.
This being bilingual problem is a problem in Illinois, though it is everywhere. I put in "bilingual" in the search part of Craigslist and got hundreds of hits. Most were low paying jobs like healthcare workers and many social agencies. No one should have to speak Spanish to work at public aid or any social agency or even jobs like factory jobs. Not only does this prevent our low skilled from taking these jobs, it also of course means taxpayers are paying more to illegals with nothing in return.
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Old 01-26-2015, 03:25 PM
 
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OP"People expect me to learn a language that I have no emotional ties to."

Nonsense. I'm had suit and tie jobs, and hate wearing them. That is no different. I'm a firm believer in allowing the buyer (employer) to set the specifications for every job, short of it excluding folks based on EEOC charactertics they did not choose.

You chose not to be bilingual, you have no valid complaint of employers when they require being bilingual as they see fit.

Don't like it. Start your own corporation.
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Old 01-26-2015, 03:31 PM
 
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This being bilingual problem is a problem in Illinois, though it is everywhere. I put in "bilingual" in the search part of Craigslist and got hundreds of hits. Most were low paying jobs like healthcare workers and many social agencies. No one should have to speak Spanish to work at public aid or any social agency or even jobs like factory jobs. Not only does this prevent our low skilled from taking these jobs, it also of course means taxpayers are paying more to illegals with nothing in return.
We have many people in this country who speak another language as their primary one. I don't see any nationwide requirements that one be able to speak Mandarin, Italian, German, etc. in order to get hired for a job in this country. There may be a few exceptions but it isn't the norm. The government jobs usually pay pretty well with benefits but if you don't know Spanish you can't get them. It can't be because of Hispanic-Americans because most know English. We all know what this is all about and it is pandering to those here illegally in the largest numbers. We don't pander to any other group in that manner who are here legally and haven't learned English yet.
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Old 01-26-2015, 03:32 PM
 
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OP"People expect me to learn a language that I have no emotional ties to."

Nonsense. I'm had suit and tie jobs, and hate wearing them. That is no different. I'm a firm believer in allowing the buyer (employer) to set the specifications for every job, short of it excluding folks based on EEOC charactertics they did not choose.

You chose not to be bilingual, you have no valid complaint of employers when they require being bilingual as they see fit.

Don't like it. Start your own corporation.
But why should one have to learn Spanish to cater to someone? I get if they deal with other countries or tourism but not welfare. This reminded me of a company near me that requires French speakers. The reason is they deal with many French speakers in Quebec and it makes it easier. This makes sense. Ironically, I once interviewed at a company with their headquarters in Amsterdam. I asked if I needed to know Dutch and she said no because they are almost all fluent to some extent in English.

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Old 01-26-2015, 03:46 PM
 
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We have many people in this country who speak another language as their primary one. I don't see any nationwide requirements that one be able to speak Mandarin, Italian, German, etc. in order to get hired for a job in this country. There may be a few exceptions but it isn't the norm. The government jobs usually pay pretty well with benefits but if you don't know Spanish you can't get them. It can't be because of Hispanic-Americans because most know English. We all know what this is all about and it is pandering to those here illegally in the largest numbers. We don't pander to any other group in that manner who are here legally and haven't learned English yet.
Exactly, we know that the people we are getting are barely literate in their language and will likely never learn English. We all know that they will likely depend on welfare. Because they are a huge percentage the powers that be decided that those who work in public aid and other social agencies should know Spanish so these people receive welfare they don't deserve and only get from their kids. Every so often I see requests for other languages but it's usually because that company deals with people of that ethnic group, often in other countries. I never see welfare jobs requesting other languages like Hindi or Chinese.
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Old 01-26-2015, 03:47 PM
 
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But why should one have to learn Spanish to cater to someone? I get if they deal with other countries or tourism but not welfare. This reminded me of a company near me that requires French speakers. The reason is they deal with many French speakers in Quebec and it makes it easier. This makes sense. Ironically, I once interviewed at a company with their headquarters in Amsterdam. I asked if I needed to know Dutch and she said no because they are almost all fluent to some extent in English.
Well, unfortunately with many businesses all they care about is their bottom line. They'd sell their mothers if it meant another buck for them as an analogy. Profit trumps patriotism also. They don't care that their discriminatory hiring practices decreases job opportunities for native English speaking Americans. With our government's lack of enforcement of our immigration laws, employers getting away with hiring illegal aliens, businesses catering to them and the promise of amnesty for them instead I have a very negative outlook for our country's future.
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Old 01-26-2015, 04:01 PM
 
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IDon'tDateYou"But why should one have to learn Spanish to cater to someone?"

Employees always cater to employers. Employers set the terms of the skill sets they wish to purchase.
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Old 01-26-2015, 04:17 PM
 
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IDon'tDateYou"But why should one have to learn Spanish to cater to someone?"

Employees always cater to employers. Employers set the terms of the skill sets they wish to purchase.
These particular employers are catering to the Hispanic community. Many people object to their lack of assimilation and the accompanying costs involved.
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Old 01-26-2015, 04:20 PM
 
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These employers are smart businessmen and women, catering as all businesses should, to generating profits.
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Old 01-26-2015, 04:26 PM
 
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These employers are smart businessmen and women, catering as all businesses should, to generating profits.
I agree with making a profit. But there should be no surprise when catering to illiterate illegals is commented on with disgust.
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