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Old 01-08-2008, 03:39 PM
 
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Old 01-08-2008, 04:08 PM
 
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OK, so the man is a drug smuggler. Does that mean he can't be a witness? Give him a break! After all, Americans smuggle drugs, too.....

(Besides, at least he's "Willin' to do the work Americans won't do", as they'd say in The White House)....
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Old 01-08-2008, 04:17 PM
 
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boy.. are you way off or what!.. Two fine border patrol agents sitting in prison because of a lowlife REPEAT druggy. Thier only offence was guarding our southern borders from lowlife drug cartels, while you sit in your easychair complaining thier ain't nothing on tv!
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Old 01-08-2008, 04:19 PM
 
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This is downright DISGUSTING, Arizona Bound.

Both the Drug Smuggling Goon and Johnny Sutton need to be SHOT!
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Old 01-08-2008, 04:36 PM
 
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boy.. are you way off or what!.. Two fine border patrol agents sitting in prison because of a lowlife REPEAT druggy. Thier only offence was guarding our southern borders from lowlife drug cartels, while you sit in your easychair complaining thier ain't nothing on tv!
Hi AZ bound. I take it you haven't met Macmeal yet. When he says totally whacked out stuff like this, he is being sarcastic 99% of the time. He really should use one of the emoticons for those who are not familiar with his style.
edit: Sorry. Looks like he did use emoticons. Maybe we should ask for a special one just for him?
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Old 01-08-2008, 05:24 PM
 
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Hi AZ bound. I take it you haven't met Macmeal yet. When he says totally whacked out stuff like this, he is being sarcastic 99% of the time. He really should use one of the emoticons for those who are not familiar with his style.
edit: Sorry. Looks like he did use emoticons. Maybe we should ask for a special one just for him?
Thanks for defending me--I needed that. I don't HAVE an easy chair, but as my attacker stated, it's true there "ain't nuthin' on TV".
Because of the continuing health care crisis, my psychiatrist has decided to limit my "meds". He explained that it would be cheaper to just let me "crack up"....perhaps that's what's so annoying about my posts....
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Old 01-08-2008, 06:51 PM
 
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Two years ago, in Texas southeast of El Paso, two U.S. Border Patrol agents fired 15 bullets at a suspected drug dealer who was fleeing on foot toward the border.

The man, a Mexican national, was hit but made it across the Rio Grande.

The agents who fired their weapons, Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, were sentenced to prison for firing on an unarmed man and then trying to cover up the crime.

For the prosecutors and the jury, the shooting of Osvaldo Aldrete-Davila near Fabens, Texas, was a clearly unlawful use of force.

Prosecutors considered the conduct of Ramos and Compean outrageous enough that the two men were charged with seven and nine counts, respectively. Both were charged with assault with intent to commit murder.

After a high-speed car chase that ended at a ditch about 120 yards from Mexico. Aldrete-Davila made a dash for the border. Compean, on foot, intercepted Aldrete-Davila, who put his hands in the air to surrender.

Compean tried to hit Aldrete-Davila with the butt of his shotgun, missed, and fell into the 11-foot-deep ditch.

Aldrete-Davila took off running. Compean climbed out of the ditch, shot at him 14 times and missed. Ramos, who had watched Compean fall, then fired once, whereupon, Aldrete-Davila fell down, but got back up, escaping across the Rio Grande into Mexico.

The two agents then covered up the incident. Compean hid some of the shell casings and asked a third agent returning to the scene later that day to dispose of the rest.

Neither Ramos nor Compean ever reported the shooting.

An unauthorized and illegal shooting, a coverup and damning testimony from fellow agents that led to an uncontroversial conviction.

After trial, convicting them of 14 of the 16 charges against them, the judge sentenced Ramos and Compean to 11 and 12 years in prison.
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Old 01-08-2008, 07:05 PM
 
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Yep, that seems to be what Bush and administration want on the streets of this country. After all, he pardoned mostly drug people didn't he? Just wait for the pro-illegal crowd to come out and defend the poor misunderstood drug running illegal criminal because he got shot in the butt. They should have killed him and then he would not have been able to lie about them in court.
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Old 01-08-2008, 07:51 PM
 
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....he would not have been able to lie about them in court.
It wasn't the testimony of the person who got shot that convicted the border agents, it was their own conflicting stories and the testimony of their fellow agents.

At trial agents took the stand to testify against Ramos and Compean.

Fellow agents, including one who had observed the shooting, contradicted Compean's story

The agent who had helped Compean hide shell casings admitted it under oath.
Prosecutors showed that Compean had repeatedly changed his story about the shooting and that it didn't match Ramos' account.

They were also able to show it wasn't until his arrest that he began claiming that Aldrete-Davila had had a gun.

They were busted, and convicted of a bad shooting and attempted cover-up.

No smuggler made them do that......
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Old 01-08-2008, 07:54 PM
 
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Two years ago, in Texas southeast of El Paso, two U.S. Border Patrol agents fired 15 bullets at a suspected drug dealer who was fleeing on foot toward the border.

The man, a Mexican national, was hit but made it across the Rio Grande.

The agents who fired their weapons, Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, were sentenced to prison for firing on an unarmed man and then trying to cover up the crime.

For the prosecutors and the jury, the shooting of Osvaldo Aldrete-Davila near Fabens, Texas, was a clearly unlawful use of force.

Prosecutors considered the conduct of Ramos and Compean outrageous enough that the two men were charged with seven and nine counts, respectively. Both were charged with assault with intent to commit murder.

After a high-speed car chase that ended at a ditch about 120 yards from Mexico. Aldrete-Davila made a dash for the border. Compean, on foot, intercepted Aldrete-Davila, who put his hands in the air to surrender.

Compean tried to hit Aldrete-Davila with the butt of his shotgun, missed, and fell into the 11-foot-deep ditch.

Aldrete-Davila took off running. Compean climbed out of the ditch, shot at him 14 times and missed. Ramos, who had watched Compean fall, then fired once, whereupon, Aldrete-Davila fell down, but got back up, escaping across the Rio Grande into Mexico.

The two agents then covered up the incident. Compean hid some of the shell casings and asked a third agent returning to the scene later that day to dispose of the rest.

Neither Ramos nor Compean ever reported the shooting.

An unauthorized and illegal shooting, a coverup and damning testimony from fellow agents that led to an uncontroversial conviction.

After trial, convicting them of 14 of the 16 charges against them, the judge sentenced Ramos and Compean to 11 and 12 years in prison.
Looks like he should have spent some more time at the firing range.
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