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Old 01-09-2008, 05:07 PM
 
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I'm pretty sure it is impossible for Texas to secede from the union. Secondly, the whole reason for ICE being a presence is to keep anti-illegals shut up. It is an organization centered around keeping these people content for what ever time. Once tensions begin to gruel once again, ICE is sent in for another immigration bust. This is what I am seeing currently. I honestly don't believe the federal government will dip their hands in the paint since illegal labor is used wide spread throughout the more populous illegal states such as California and Texas. These two states also happen to be the biggest with the most money, they supply the federal government with billions every year.

Really if we want to crack down on illegal immigrants is for the states to say "We are going to crack down on illegal immigrants" and one by one will start leaving their jobs and flee either back to Mexico or to another state. In the end what will that solve? Only some of the states' problems. Look at Oklahoma, all they did was swat the flies and killed a few. The others fled into other states which in essence only scape goated their problem.

Those bust you talk about are going on now in TEXAS everyday....

This is just fro you PL....on the 6PM local news they just picked up another load of illegals....today....
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Old 01-09-2008, 05:09 PM
 
Location: California
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Those bust you talk about are going on now in TEXAS everyday....
And who's complaining the most..?
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Old 01-09-2008, 05:11 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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The only thing the school books covered last year was about Texas seceding from Mexico and joining the union. Any how, I want to see a valid source on the agreement was made that they could secede.
Read the Texas Constitution. I believe you'll find the information right there.
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Old 01-09-2008, 05:12 PM
 
Location: California
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Read the Texas Constitution. I believe you'll find the information right there.
Want to tell me what section? Theres hundreds.
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Old 01-09-2008, 05:19 PM
 
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And who's complaining the most..?
Seems to be the illegals..... {:>)
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Old 01-09-2008, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Want to tell me what section? Theres hundreds.
Think of it as a school project.

Who knows, perhaps you can write a paper on it for extra credit!
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Old 01-09-2008, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth/Dallas
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As far as I know, Texas does not have the authority to secede.

This is from www.texasseced.com (broken link)

Neither the Texas Constitution, nor the Constitution of the united States, explicitly or implicitly disallows the secession of Texas (or any other “free and independent State”) from the United States.

However, I wish it DID, since I live here..
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Old 01-09-2008, 05:28 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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Want to tell me what section? Theres hundreds.
I know, I've read it, along with the U.S. Constitution, the California Constitution, and now the Wyoming Constitution. I just finished a semester with a History of Wyoming course. I had to know all of the U.S. Constitution and the Wyoming Constitution and compare and contrast the two on my mid-term exam. Anyone transferring in from any out of state college must do the same, no matter what point they are at in their education. If my old brain can do it, your younger brain should be able to read the Texas Constitution and figure out which article contains the right for Texas to secede from the Union.

I'll give you a hint. It won't be in the articles regarding water rights, education, municipal or county organizations, public lands, or militia.
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Old 01-09-2008, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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As far as I know, Texas does not have the authority to secede.

This is from www.texasseced.com

Neither the Texas Constitution, nor the Constitution of the united States, explicitly or implicitly disallows the secession of Texas (or any other “free and independent State”) from the United States.

However, I wish it DID, since I live here..
it also says "Joining the “Union” was ever and always voluntary, rendering voluntary withdrawal an equally lawful and viable option (regardless of what any self-appointed academic, media, or government “experts”—including Abraham Lincoln himself—may have ever said).
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Old 01-09-2008, 05:50 PM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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it also says "Joining the “Union” was ever and always voluntary, rendering voluntary withdrawal an equally lawful and viable option (regardless of what any self-appointed academic, media, or government “experts”—including Abraham Lincoln himself—may have ever said).
I went to high school in Texas years ago, but I believe that it is worded similarly in the Constitution.

My high school history teacher used to like to joke about Texas having the right to secede from the Union if the rest of the country didn't straighten up.
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