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01-09-2008, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by nvxplorer
No, it's not. It's a bleeding-heart euphemism.
The proper term is "alien," of which there are several categories. The one in question is "illegal alien."
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al·ien  /ˈeɪl yən, ˈeɪ li ən/Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[eyl-yuh n, ey-lee-uh n]Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1.a resident born in or belonging to another country who has not acquired citizenship by naturalization (distinguished from citizen). 2.a foreigner. 3.a person who has been estranged or excluded. 4.a creature from outer space; extraterrestrial. –adjective 5.residing under a government or in a country other than that of one's birth without having or obtaining the status of citizenship there. 6.belonging or relating to aliens: alien property. 7.unlike one's own; strange; not belonging to one: alien speech. 8.adverse; hostile; opposed (usually fol. by to or from): ideas alien to modern thinking. 9. extraterrestrial.
[Origin: 1300–50; ME < MF < L aliénus, equiv. to *alies- ( ali-, base of alius other + -es- n. suffix) + -nus adj. suffix  ]
—Synonyms 1. immigrant. 2 . See stranger. 3 . outcast. 7 . exotic, foreign
alien - Definitions from Dictionary.com
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01-09-2008, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by blacknight04
Undocumented immigrant is the proper term.
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No, the CORRECT and legal term is ILLEGAL ALIEN
The term "undocumented" is the leftist attempt at political correctness - seems you buy into the PC game
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01-09-2008, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by blacknight04
al·ien  /ˈeɪl yən, ˈeɪ li ən/Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[eyl-yuh n, ey-lee-uh n]Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1.a resident born in or belonging to another country who has not acquired citizenship by naturalization (distinguished from citizen). 2.a foreigner. 3.a person who has been estranged or excluded. 4.a creature from outer space; extraterrestrial. –adjective 5.residing under a government or in a country other than that of one's birth without having or obtaining the status of citizenship there. 6.belonging or relating to aliens: alien property. 7.unlike one's own; strange; not belonging to one: alien speech. 8.adverse; hostile; opposed (usually fol. by to or from): ideas alien to modern thinking. 9. extraterrestrial.
[Origin: 1300–50; ME < MF < L aliénus, equiv. to *alies- ( ali-, base of alius other + -es- n. suffix) + -nus adj. suffix  ]
—Synonyms 1. immigrant. 2 . See stranger. 3 . outcast. 7 . exotic, foreign
alien - Definitions from Dictionary.com
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Um...your claim is that "undocumented" is the proper term. Maybe I missed it, but I don't see the word "undocumented" anywhere in that definition. What you've shown is that "alien" is the proper term, which was my claim. Thanks.
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01-09-2008, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by nvxplorer
Um...your claim is that "undocumented" is the proper term. Maybe I missed it, but I don't see the word "undocumented" anywhere in that definition. What you've shown is that "alien" is the proper term, which was my claim. Thanks.
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alien= immigrant
undocumented= illegal
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01-09-2008, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Nea1
No Illegal immigrant. They are here Illegally, not just lacking documents.
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Those who lack documents have no problem obtaining them through fraudulent means, or stealing the identities of legal citizens.
They are illegal aliens. The sundry euphemisms the pro-illegals create changes nothing; it only perpetuates their delusional sense of entitlement.
Unfortunately, this incident is merely one of a multitude of heinous crimes these 'hard-working' and 'decent' invaders have committed. It's appalling, and hardly an isolated incident.
Immigrants = Legal Entry
Illegal Aliens = Unlawful Entry
Guests = Invited
Burglars = Criminal Breaking & Entering
Last edited by Benicar; 01-09-2008 at 02:21 PM..
Reason: Typo
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01-09-2008, 02:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blacknight04
alien= immigrant
undocumented= illegal
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Thanks again! I'm glad you finally agree that "illegal" is the proper term.
BTW, alien does not equal immigrant. A visiting foreign emissary is an alien, but not an immigrant. There are many more examples.
Advice: Stop digging.
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01-09-2008, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Kele
You know...undocumented immigrant = illegal alien
undocumented pharmacist = drug dealer.
See the logic?
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Good one, Kele
"If it WALKS like a Duck and it QUACKS like a Duck . . . "
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01-09-2008, 06:03 PM
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Children are going hungry in the U.S. Do SOMETHING
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Originally Posted by blacknight04
Nonsense.
drug dealer
nounan unlicensed dealer in illegal drugs [syn: pusher]
illegal alien
–noun 1.a foreigner who has entered or resides in a country unlawfully or without the country's authorization. 2.a foreigner who enters the U.S. without an entry or immigrant visa, esp. a person who crosses the border by avoiding inspection or who overstays the period of time allowed as a visitor, tourist, or businessperson. Compare resident alien (broken link).
Also called illegal immigrant
Inventing your own words now kele? 
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Nope, just showing folks how you arrived at your illogical conclusion...
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01-09-2008, 06:10 PM
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you can use all the "correct" words you want as what "they" are soppose to be called... who cares. But Americans DO care that they are here without concent, proper papers, legal (real) documentation, legal status.. use whichever one you like! They are simply DRAINING Americans dry.. give, give, give.. Americans are sick of it.. the real ones are anyway.. not the amnesty illegals.
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01-09-2008, 06:39 PM
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Remember this ?
"Remember those 2 illegals from Mexico, who raped and murdered the 2 girls in Houston? They were in jail, and officials from Mexico came over, and were able to take these 2 monsters back to Mexico. Now, they are suing because the officers in Houston didn't tell them they could get free legal counsel from Mexico?! How can these things happen?!" 
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