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Old 03-07-2015, 08:13 AM
 
Location: East St. Paul 651 forever (or North St. Paul) .
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The entire country should rally and demand that these illegals ****ers are thrown the eff out of the country but will that happen....?


Oh course not. Americans are too busy watching their 'Survivor' and paying bills to even know what is going on in front of their eyes.


America truly is finished and our children are going to be the ones who suffer back into bondage because of our actions and the actions of those before us.


Middle class American is a thing of the past at this point.
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Old 03-07-2015, 08:16 AM
 
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The entire country should rally and demand that these illegals ****ers are thrown the eff out of the country but will that happen....?


Oh course not. Americans are too busy watching their 'Survivor' and paying bills to even know what is going on in front of their eyes.


America truly is finished and our children are going to be the ones who suffer back into bondage because of our actions and the actions of those before us.


Middle class American is a thing of the past at this point.
Perhaps some Americans don't care but I believe most (aside from the bleeding hearts and ethnocentrics) do care. I think change is a coming and in a good way. I hope I'm not wrong.
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Old 03-07-2015, 12:22 PM
 
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Perhaps some Americans don't care but I believe most (aside from the bleeding hearts and ethnocentrics) do care. I think change is a coming and in a good way. I hope I'm not wrong.
I hope that you are not wrong, too, Oldglory!

What ever happens, people like us can hold our heads up high because we do all we can to stop this madness. By "us" I mean each and every American who works to make a difference.
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Old 03-13-2015, 06:26 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY
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Quit calling them "refunds" because these handouts, picked from taxpayers' pockets, in no way correlate to the amount of tax paid, if any.

Hold onto your wallets while the gub-ment continues to tell you to delay applying for Social Security (while hoping you die), and screams about how SS and Medicare are going broke--for Americans who contributed so they can dole out goodies to people who were here illegally yesterday. Thanks, dumb Gringo.

Wake up, sheeple.
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Old 03-13-2015, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY
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Most are low wage earners so they get any income taxes they paid in back in the form of a refund when they file their taxes. Many qualify for the EIC because of their large families and get back more than they paid into the system to the tune of billions of dollars. Many work under the table and pay no income taxes. No one profits from them except those who hire them. The rest of us have to cover their social costs via higher taxes, loss of jobs and reduced wages while their greedy employers just pocket the savings. If they were deported instead Americans would get their jobs back at a higher rate of pay and our tax coffers would increase. Most Americans don't send billions out of our country in the form of remittances to another country either as illegal aliens do. Anyone who claims in here that illegals are a benefit to us are fools. They are lying to themselves because of a personal agenda.

Wrong.

EITC is a refundable credit, meaning they receive more than they paid.

No wonder the gub-ment is thrilled that most workers don't prepare their own taxes and, therefore, don't see those EITC tax tables.
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Old 03-13-2015, 01:57 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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I don't mind taxing them. They're here illegally, they can pay the penalty. Since it costs more to send them out apparently, they can get all of the penalties and none of the benefits. That's what you get when you cheat your way in, imo.
Exactly! At least it's forcing them to actually pay something for their kid's education and medical care.
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Old 03-13-2015, 04:04 PM
 
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So basically we currently take advantage of illegals to help boost tax dollars, and this EO would mean we would take less advantage of illegals as long as they can prove their income during the past four years.


Tax on wages they had absolutely no right at all to be here earning.
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Old 03-13-2015, 04:07 PM
 
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I used to file taxes for a living, it wasn't uncommon for somebody with 3 kids to come in and get a return of 6-8k. There's a sweet spot for EIC, if you make around 25k a year and have 3 kids (or 4, I've heard that they raised the max to 4, I haven't done it since 2013 when it was 3), you'll get 8+. I've refunded up to over 10 grand.
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Though making 25K for a family of 4, single family of 4 I assume. 8K isn't much extra to live on seeing a portion of that is from that 25K to begin with. (Just making a statement on your post, nothing actually directed towards you, just so you know.)




This is Welfare, not a refund.

No one should get back more than they paid in.
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Old 03-13-2015, 04:10 PM
 
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I agree with this partly, I also think it is unfair to tax illegals to begin with, but we do it because it is an easy way to take advantage of them. Sort of, you pay taxes on your income and we won't report you, but don't expect to see any of those tax dollars back. The whole process seems wrong.



Wow! on the bolded part, what a statement.

Any illegal that has provided a fake SS# puts themselves in a position of paying taxes.
Their fraud brought that about.
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Old 03-13-2015, 04:11 PM
 
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No, that is called taking advantage of people because we can, that doesn't make it right. If we wanted to actually solve this problem we would go after those that hire illegals rather than taking money from illegals and letting those that employ illegals to keep doing so.

Yes, those that employ illegals should be nailed to the wall.
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