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Old 02-15-2015, 02:49 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, LA
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No, that is called taking advantage of people because we can, that doesn't make it right. If we wanted to actually solve this problem we would go after those that hire illegals rather than taking money from illegals and letting those that employ illegals to keep doing so.
I think it's called penalizing them because they broke the law. Yes, of course go after the people that hire the illegals as well. I think we can do both. However, when we allow them EIC, that encourages them to come and try to get a job.
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Old 02-15-2015, 02:52 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I think it's called penalizing them because they broke the law. Yes, of course go after the people that hire the illegals as well. I think we can do both. However, when we allow them EIC, that encourages them to come and try to get a job.
No, having them pay taxes isn't called penalizing. When we go after illegals, we are basically saying illegal workers are welcome in this country as long as they help pad our tax income system. That is called taking advantage of illegals. If we cared about getting rid of illegals, taxing them for their work isn't the way to do it.
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Old 02-15-2015, 02:59 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, LA
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No, having them pay taxes isn't called penalizing. When we go after illegals, we are basically saying illegal workers are welcome in this country as long as they help pad our tax income system. That is called taking advantage of illegals. If we cared about getting rid of illegals, taxing them for their work isn't the way to do it.
At the same time, if we don't want them to break the law in order to get here, giving them money to come and work here illegally doesn't send a message to stop, either. It's definitely not fair to the people who go through the process of getting here legally, that they have to pay taxes, yet the people that cut in line don't.
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Old 02-15-2015, 03:04 AM
 
Location: Alaska
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Ask any accountant and they will give you an ear full about the fraud in EIC.
To the tune of 13-16 billion. What's 5 billion more to make sure we get 18 million more moonbats sucking the teet of welfare and entitlements.

Massive Fraud Still Rampant in EIC Program
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Old 02-15-2015, 03:08 AM
 
Location: Alaska
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No, that is called taking advantage of people because we can, that doesn't make it right. If we wanted to actually solve this problem we would go after those that hire illegals rather than taking money from illegals and letting those that employ illegals to keep doing so.
They should be in jail awaiting a bus to where ever they came from not getting thousands in money they are not entitled to. Illegals have no rights under the laws that govern US citizens. They are not US citizens period.
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Old 02-15-2015, 04:18 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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At the same time, if we don't want them to break the law in order to get here, giving them money to come and work here illegally doesn't send a message to stop, either. It's definitely not fair to the people who go through the process of getting here legally, that they have to pay taxes, yet the people that cut in line don't.
Actually both would be paying taxes because they both currently pay taxes. Why should illegals be paying taxes? They shouldn't be given jobs to begin with. That is on those that hire illegals. We allow this because it pads our tax system.
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Old 02-15-2015, 04:20 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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They should be in jail awaiting a bus to where ever they came from not getting thousands in money they are not entitled to. Illegals have no rights under the laws that govern US citizens. They are not US citizens period.
And how will that curb illegals in this country? The person who hires illegals will just hire more illegals. We should be jailing those that hire illegals if we want to stop illegals from coming here. But the reality is, no one wants to stop illegals from coming here because we make money off of them by taking advantage of illegals.
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Old 02-15-2015, 04:39 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Didn't take long for what? Someone to actually read the link?
Well, maybe some RW radio hack or FOX jock interpreted it for him so he wouldn't have to read it.
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Old 02-15-2015, 06:29 AM
 
Location: East St. Paul 651 forever (or North St. Paul) .
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This country is on the verge of going down the tube. The working (w) man is the one footing the bill for these cockroaches and it's not FAIR to us, not one bit.


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I agree with this partly, I also think it is unfair to tax illegals to begin with, but we do it because it is an easy way to take advantage of them. Sort of, you pay taxes on your income and we won't report you, but don't expect to see any of those tax dollars back. The whole process seems wrong.
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Which is what we get, a system that takes advantage of illegals and does nothing to the people hiring illegals. You may think that is what the illegals get, but that doesn't make it right.
Unbelievable.
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Old 02-15-2015, 07:16 AM
 
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Illegals don't have choices like not coming here in the first place because it is against the law (and let's not hear the lame lies that they are starving in their homelands or that they are only doing jobs that Americans refuse to do either) and then the poor babies are being taken advantage of against their will? How about we use the income taxes that "some" pay to cover their enormous social costs? How anyone can sympathize with these law breaking leeches is beyond me. Yes, the employers are guilty also but at least I admit they both are while the illegal alien sympathizers think the illegal aliens themselves are innocent little exploited babies that have no control over their own choices in life. It doesn't get any more bazzaro than that.

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