U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Illegal Immigration
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 02-15-2015, 08:43 AM
 
33,046 posts, read 20,835,319 times
Reputation: 8928

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by urbanlife78 View Post
And how will that curb illegals in this country? The person who hires illegals will just hire more illegals. We should be jailing those that hire illegals if we want to stop illegals from coming here. But the reality is, no one wants to stop illegals from coming here because we make money off of them by taking advantage of illegals.

Who the #@&$ is "we"? The (legal) working class sure as #@&$ is not making money off of illegals.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 02-15-2015, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Sale Creek, TN
3,808 posts, read 3,444,751 times
Reputation: 3987
What about the illegals, that have SS #s and false IDs? Will they get to double dip? Change to real name and get SS # for that name and boom, another refund.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-15-2015, 09:20 AM
 
Location: East St. Paul 651 forever (or North St. Paul) .
2,869 posts, read 2,722,787 times
Reputation: 1446
Quote:
Originally Posted by Creekcat View Post
What about the illegals, that have SS #s and false IDs? Will they get to double dip? Change to real name and get SS # for that name and boom, another refund.
Might as well just start paying them wages for all the time they came here and undercut other middle- and lower-class Americans.


Our left-wing (and even right-wing, McCain types) sympathizing traitorous government should just bend over backward all the way for them. They sure don't care about the middle-class Americans.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-15-2015, 09:27 AM
 
31,942 posts, read 14,712,394 times
Reputation: 8518
Quote:
Originally Posted by freemkt View Post
Who the #@&$ is "we"? The (legal) working class sure as #@&$ is not making money off of illegals.
Exactly, there is no "we" are making money off of them. It is only the greedy employers and Joe cheapskate that do. The rest of us "we"s" get to foot the bill for their social costs and enjoy less jobs opportunities and reduced wages. Not to mention our crowded schools, jails and hospitals.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-15-2015, 09:35 AM
 
10,887 posts, read 6,611,617 times
Reputation: 6166
The more immigrants, the fewer jobs for Millenials.

They voted for it, they got it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-15-2015, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
25,397 posts, read 16,387,873 times
Reputation: 14131
If the OPs story is true it is yet another outrage perpetrated by Obama on the backs of the American working people. IF, for whatever reason we elect to allow criminal aliens to stay in this country, they should be paying a fine for every year they were here illegally, and a hefty fee now that they are allowed to stay legally. At this least this would offset the costs of services they receive. We should not be rewarding criminals with more welfare.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-15-2015, 09:44 AM
 
62,728 posts, read 27,987,094 times
Reputation: 7943
Quote:
Originally Posted by urbanlife78 View Post
Why should illegals be paying taxes? They shouldn't be given jobs to begin with. That is on those that hire illegals. We allow this because it pads our tax system.
What makes you think they were paying income tax? If they had no SS Number or Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (because they were here illegally) prior to Obama's EO, how would they have been paying income tax?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-15-2015, 09:48 AM
 
62,728 posts, read 27,987,094 times
Reputation: 7943
Quote:
Originally Posted by Goinback2011 View Post
The more immigrants, the fewer jobs for Millenials.

They voted for it, they got it.
Good point.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-15-2015, 10:04 AM
 
31,942 posts, read 14,712,394 times
Reputation: 8518
Quote:
Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
What makes you think they were paying income tax? If they had no SS Number or Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (because they were here illegally) prior to Obama's EO, how would they have been paying income tax?
Not only that but because many of them have numerous dependents any income taxes they pay in they get back in the form of a refund at the end of the year. Many qualify for the EIC and get back more than they paid in. What about those who work under the table? They aren't paying any income taxes. They send billions out of our economy to their homelands also. Yes, go after the employers by implementing e-verify in very workplace but the illegal aliens aren't the innocents in all of this either. They are equally guilty by coming here in the first place and knowingly working without authorization.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-15-2015, 10:08 AM
 
31,942 posts, read 14,712,394 times
Reputation: 8518
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
If the OPs story is true it is yet another outrage perpetrated by Obama on the backs of the American working people. IF, for whatever reason we elect to allow criminal aliens to stay in this country, they should be paying a fine for every year they were here illegally, and a hefty fee now that they are allowed to stay legally. At this least this would offset the costs of services they receive. We should not be rewarding criminals with more welfare.
No, by allowing them to remain here legally we are rewarding their criminal behavior. Will those that have committed felony ID theft be allowed to remain? Of course! Is that fair? Of course not! Not only that but who is going to monitor them paying back taxes, fines, learning English, etc. and at what cost to the taxpayer? Our government can't even keep track of visa overstayers. What about the jobs they are working? Don't we need to free those up for the American worker? Nope, remove all the incentives for them to remain here and to continue to come here. No amnesty, period!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Illegal Immigration
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2018, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top