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Old 03-21-2015, 04:00 AM
 
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"When the United Farm Workers union launched a campaign offering to connect unemployed people to farm jobs, only three people accepted -- out of thousands of inquiries."
US Farmers Depend on Illegal Immigrants

I have an orange tree in my backyard. And after you pick oranges for 5 minutes you say "f. this s--t."
Even IF you're 100 right: then why do MOST illegals live were there's NO agriculture work?

Too: please post up a link saying how food prices would go up AND by how much with illegals GONE from the US.
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Old 03-21-2015, 06:46 AM
 
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"When the United Farm Workers union launched a campaign offering to connect unemployed people to farm jobs, only three people accepted -- out of thousands of inquiries."
US Farmers Depend on Illegal Immigrants

I have an orange tree in my backyard. And after you pick oranges for 5 minutes you say "f. this s--t."
Only 3% of illegal aliens are picking crops. The rest are doing jobs that Americans have always been willing to do. There are unlimited visas for legal, foreign crop pickers so there is no reason for the growers to use illegal aliens except for increasing their profits.
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Old 03-21-2015, 05:16 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Even IF you're 100 right: then why do MOST illegals live were there's NO agriculture work?

Too: please post up a link saying how food prices would go up AND by how much with illegals GONE from the US.
Cheap food I: illegal immigrants

Agriculture Industry Fears Disaster If Illegal Immigration Enforcement Program E-Verify Is Implemented

Georgia's Harsh Immigration Law Costs Millions in Unharvested Crops

Alabama Harvests The Bitter Fruit Of Its Harsh New Immigration Laws: Tomatoes Dying On The Vine | Crooks and Liars

U.S. Farmers Urge Changes to Immigration Law Amid Labor Shortage | TIME.com
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Old 03-21-2015, 05:35 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Only 3% of illegal aliens are picking crops. The rest are doing jobs that Americans have always been willing to do. There are unlimited visas for legal, foreign crop pickers so there is no reason for the growers to use illegal aliens except for increasing their profits.
80% of America's farm field workers are illegal immigrants, and "the US Agriculture Industry Fears Disaster If Illegal Immigration Enforcement Program E-Verify Is Implemented."
Agriculture Industry Fears Disaster If Illegal Immigration Enforcement Program E-Verify Is Implemented

Its strange how some republicans say China producing our goods is a positive thing because it gives us low cost goods. But when you tell republicans illegal immigrants are good for the economy they don't care.

Immigration laws in Arizona and Alabama come at a great economic cost | TIME.com
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Old 03-21-2015, 05:39 PM
 
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Don't you get it, chad? It's been pointed out time and time again, not only to you but to others --- Farmers have an agricultural visa program that is available to them and it has no caps on it. There is no excuse for sleazy farmers to not use it and instead opt for cheap, exploitable, illegal labor.

Those sleazy farmers should be afraid.

Also, those farmers who do use the visa program have no problems getting their crops picked. Funny how the lamestream media never asks the sleazy farmers why they refuse to obey the law and use, if not the program, legal immigrants.
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Old 03-21-2015, 05:41 PM
 
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So food prices go up a little bit because farmers would HAVE to offer more money for workers. Big deal, NOT. Many Americans work the oil field for maybe 2 times the money and THAT'S rough work.
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Old 03-21-2015, 06:01 PM
 
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Don't you get it, chad? It's been pointed out time and time again, not only to you but to others --- Farmers have an agricultural visa program that is available to them and it has no caps on it. There is no excuse for sleazy farmers to not use it and instead opt for cheap, exploitable, illegal labor.

Those sleazy farmers should be afraid.

Also, those farmers who do use the visa program have no problems getting their crops picked. Funny how the lamestream media never asks the sleazy farmers why they refuse to obey the law and use, if not the program, legal immigrants.
The visa program has big problems and many farmers find it unworkable. For instance there is a middle man who has to get paid. And that middle man requires lead time, a commitment to a precise schedule and head count. Much of that is unacceptable to the farmer who wants his labor with a few days notice and great flexibility...he gets this from the illegals.

So the visa programs cost more and have much greater risk for the farmer.
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Old 03-21-2015, 06:05 PM
 
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The visa program has big problems and many farmers find it unworkable. For instance there is a middle man who has to get paid. And that middle man requires lead time, a commitment to a precise schedule and head count. Much of that is unacceptable to the farmer who wants his labor with a few days notice and great flexibility...he gets this from the illegals.

So the visa programs cost more and have much greater risk for the farmer.
It sounds to me those "farmers" shouldn't be working in that kind of work then. Either that or really amp up the wages, more money WILL attract people. If talking about 15 an hour or more, I'd be working the fields.
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Old 03-21-2015, 06:11 PM
 
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I love how people make excuses for these despicable whining scofflaw farmers. Once again, there is no excuse for these sleazy farmers to thumb their noses at our laws. For all their whining and sniveling, they aren't kidding anyone. What they want is cheap, exploitable, illegal labor.
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Old 03-21-2015, 06:20 PM
 
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I love how people make excuses for these despicable whining scofflaw farmers. Once again, there is no excuse for these sleazy farmers to thumb their noses at our laws. For all their whining and sniveling, they aren't kidding anyone. What they want is cheap, exploitable, illegal labor.
They don't care about illegal. Just cheap and exploitable.

That has been a principle of migrant employment forever. Goes on just as bad in Canada where Indians are often exploited.

And much of the migrants do alright with it. They move with the flow and can sometimes make a reasonable living.

The use of illegals were in fact a de facto government program in much of the west. Fought attempts to limit it by the Mexicans and sometimes federal authorities. It is a well established tradition in say southern Texas.
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