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01-11-2008, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by andreabeth
Your grandfather's situation was truly unfortunate. Hopefully, he lived long enough to see the laws that prohibited child labor enacted.
The bottom line is that back in the early part of the 20th century formal education was not crucial to making a go of it in US society. The situation is very different today. A HS diploma (or GED) is an absolute minimum level and the majority of illegal aliens simply do not have even that.
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Thankfully he lived into his 80s and long enough to see child labor laws passed and long enough to be very disappointed with the direction of labor unions. But you are right, we need to put more of our high school graduates (or GED) in the fields picking tomatoes, lettuce, mowing lawns, cooking in fast-food kitchens and restaurants. They should NOT aspire for better paying jobs or least of all furthering their education to obtain higher degrees.
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01-11-2008, 06:41 PM
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Location: California
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Originally Posted by Choctaw2
You are entitled to your opinion even if it is insulting to your pthers here.
I got my information BTW through Wikipedia
[edit] Early life and education
Bill Richardson was born at the Huntington Hospital in Pasadena, California to William Blaine Richardson Jr. (1891–1972), a banker, whose parents were of Jordanian heritage.[ citation needed] He lived and worked in Mexico City for decades. It was his Mother, María Luisa López-Collada Márquez who largely took care of him during his youth (born 1914). He has a younger sister, Vesta. Just before Richardson was born, his mother was sent to California, where her husband's sister lived, to give birth because, as Richardson explained , "My father had a complex about not having been born in the United States."[3] Three of his four grandparents were Mexican, and he identifies himself as Hispanic.[3][4] Richardson, a U.S. citizen by birthright, was raised in Mexico City. His parents sent him to Massachusetts at age 13 to attend a Boston-area preparatory school, Middlesex School in Concord, Massachusetts, where he played baseball as a pitcher. He entered Tufts University in 1966 where he continued to play baseball. His original biographies stated that he had been drafted by the Kansas City Athletics and Los Angeles Dodgers to play professional baseball, but a 2005 Albuquerque Journal investigation revealed that he never was on any official draft. Richardson acknowledged the error which he claimed was unintentional, saying that he had been scouted by several teams and told that he "would or could" be drafted, but was mistaken in saying that he was actually drafted. [5]
He earned a Bachelor's degree at Tufts in 1970, majoring in French and political science and was a brother and president of Delta Tau Delta. He went on to earn a master's degree in international affairs from Tufts' Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy in 1971. While still in high school, he met his future wife, Barbara Flavin. They married in 1972 and have no children.
Sounds pretty much to me like his daddy didn't like the fact that he was not born in America but intended to make sure his son (Bill richardson) was born in America/
Frankly I couldn't give a rats patootie what you call me. I've been called worse, believe me. And BTW MY Jesus does not stoop to name calling.
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Even though that is true that still does not make him an anchor baby. His dad is an AMERICAN.
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01-11-2008, 06:57 PM
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Location: NM
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Well ProLogic ....It is very apparent to me that his dad was not sure his son would be an American citizen if he was born in Mexico or he would NOT have gone to all that trouble to make sure his son was born in California.
If just being an American father (living and working in Mexico) would gurantee his son would be an American, why should he have bothered sending his wife to CA to give birth?
I call that being an Anchor baby.
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01-11-2008, 07:40 PM
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Location: Hutto, Tx
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I don't see anything wrong with teaching a young person the value of hard work. I had to learn it. As a result, I am not afraid to do it whenever it is called for. I actually have a neighbor who's sons go around looking for lawns to mow or whatever help someone may need around the house so they can earn extra money for things. You rarely see that anymore.
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01-11-2008, 07:56 PM
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Location: NM
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But you are right, we need to put more of our high school graduates (or GED) in the fields picking tomatoes, lettuce, mowing lawns, cooking in fast-food kitchens and restaurants. They should NOT aspire for better paying jobs or least of all furthering their education to obtain higher degrees.
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Nothing at all wrong with that, Just because they are working to earn their own money in the fields, fast food etc, does not mean they lack ambition to finish school, go on to college and be sucessful in life. I have grand sons who would do just about anything (and they have) to earn their own spending money. One in fact has been working as a gopher for the past year, attending both day and night classes so he could graduate early and move up in the company he is working for, and I proud to say he has done just that! I'm very proud of him. Don't have any grand daughters old enough to get a work permit. But I do have several Married grandchildren who are making their own way in this world and getting higer education.
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01-12-2008, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by elston
"It's the anti-ILLEGAL immigration movement. There is a significant difference between people who are here legally and those who are not."
You say this, but the attack on Gov. Richardson proves otherwise.
Most of those who say it is only the "illegal", harass and insult and disparage all persons who are Mexican or Latino. It really is all about bigotry! It has nothing to do with immigration status.
The anti-Mexican crew act as if the accident of where they were born and their ethnicity really made them superior.
Of course the Irish were considered sub human, the Polish were considered stupid, the Italians were considered dangerous and diseased, the Jews from eastern Europe were subject to all the usual anti semetic rant, the Chinese and Japanese were outlawed and so it goes.
If it is only because they are "here illegally"; comprehensive immigration reform would solve all your problems--with the stroke of a pen they could all be legally here, just like the pen stroke that made the rest of us legally here. None of us or our ancestors were born with "Legal" stamped on the bottom of our foot!
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Thinking Mexicans have some protection from what others face is racist in itself. Just because Richardson is Mexican does not mean he should not be scrutinized in any way. Certainly Obama has to face up to his family background, Romney has to answer questions on his Mormon faith.
A Mexican presidential candidate certainly have his ties and allegience to a foreign nation brought up.
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01-12-2008, 09:19 AM
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Location: Mesa, Az
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Originally Posted by malamute
Thinking Mexicans have some protection from what others face is racist in itself. Just because Richardson is Mexican does not mean he should not be scrutinized in any way. Certainly Obama has to face up to his family background, Romney has to answer questions on his Mormon faith.
A Mexican presidential candidate certainly have his ties and allegience to a foreign nation brought up.
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Strictly speaking: Mitt Romney is a 'Mexican-American' as well; his father, George, was born in Chihuahua, Mx to 'Anglo' Americans who were residents of that country-----never mind that Mitt has little or no Spanish/Aztec, etc. heritage.
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01-12-2008, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ArizonaBear
Strictly speaking: Mitt Romney is a 'Mexican-American' as well; his father, George, was born in Chihuahua, Mx to 'Anglo' Americans who were residents of that country-----never mind that Mitt has little or no Spanish/Aztec, etc. heritage.
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That's true. His father was apparently unable to pursue the presidency because he was foreign born.
And I think which country they give their allegience is a fair question when it's very likely they are going to be very biased.
Look what would happen to someone with close connections with Israel if he were to run for president. Why should Richardson should be immune just because he's a Mexican from the same questions that would be asked of others. Is Richardson a dual citizen with Mexico and the USA?
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01-12-2008, 03:20 PM
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Location: Mesa, Az
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Originally Posted by malamute
That's true. His father was apparently unable to pursue the presidency because he was foreign born.
And I think which country they give their allegience is a fair question when it's very likely they are going to be very biased.
Look what would happen to someone with close connections with Israel if he were to run for president. Why should Richardson should be immune just because he's a Mexican from the same questions that would be asked of others. Is Richardson a dual citizen with Mexico and the USA?
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Richardson is an American; not a Mexican......he was born here in the USA.
Whether his mother was illegal or not would not matter; his father was a US citizen.
That stated: the man did not have a snowball's chance in hell of winning the Democratic nomination come to find out
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01-12-2008, 04:37 PM
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Location: So. of Rosarito, Baja, Mexico
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I am under the impression that any baby born to AMERICAN CITIZENS in a foreign country only have to report the birth within 48 hrs to the nearest AMERICAN EMBASSY. The baby is shown to be of AMERICAN PARENTS (PASSPORTS) but he/she will be shown to be born in the stated country on a AMERICAN DOCUMENT issued by EMBASSY to the parents. I met a man who was born in GERMANY, as his father was in the US airforce stationed there. His AMERICAN PASSPORT showed " place of birth GERMANY". The citizenship follows the parents. Stefhen
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