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Old 01-10-2008, 10:56 PM
 
Location: Helena, Montana
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Immigration is a big issue throughout country. Of likely voters nationally, 53 percent said immigration was either their most important issue or one of their top three issues, while just 8 percent said it was not at all important. With the exception of CT-4th, in races surveyed only about 10 percent of voters said it was not important at all.


Voters less likely to vote for immigration-increasing candidates. Experts agree that the bill recently passed by the Senate would at least double future legal immigration, yet 70 percent of voters said they would be less likely to vote for a candidate who wanted to double legal immigration. Overwhelming majorities in every battleground race feel the same way.


U.S. House immigration plan by far the favorite.Enforcement approaches with no increase in legal immigration were the most popular policy option -- 44 percent wanted enforcement that causes illegals to go home, the US House’s approach, and another 20 percent wanted large-scale deportations. Just 31 percent supported a legalization


Voters skeptical of need for unskilled immigrant labor. More than 70 percent of voters nationally agreed that there were, “plenty of Americans to do low-wage jobs that require relatively little education, employers just need to pay higher wages and treat workers better to attract Americans,” compared to 21 percent who said we need immigrants because there were not enough Americans to do all such jobs. The results were very similar in all the contested states and districts surveyed.



Center for Immigration Studies


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Old 01-10-2008, 10:58 PM
 
Location: California
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Ask lower middle class and poor people and you will get one answer. Ask the upper middle class and the rich and you will get a different answer.
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Old 01-10-2008, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Helena, Montana
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Ask lower middle class and poor people and you will get one answer. Ask the upper middle class and the rich and you will get a different answer.
Which are dominant in my post, the rich or the poor? And where exactly does the Center for immigration studies disclose the social status of the people surveyed?
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Old 01-10-2008, 11:16 PM
 
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Immigration is a big issue throughout country. Of likely voters nationally, 53 percent said immigration was either their most important issue or one of their top three issues, while just 8 percent said it was not at all important. With the exception of CT-4th, in races surveyed only about 10 percent of voters said it was not important at all.


Voters less likely to vote for immigration-increasing candidates. Experts agree that the bill recently passed by the Senate would at least double future legal immigration, yet 70 percent of voters said they would be less likely to vote for a candidate who wanted to double legal immigration. Overwhelming majorities in every battleground race feel the same way.


U.S. House immigration plan by far the favorite.Enforcement approaches with no increase in legal immigration were the most popular policy option -- 44 percent wanted enforcement that causes illegals to go home, the US House’s approach, and another 20 percent wanted large-scale deportations. Just 31 percent supported a legalization


Voters skeptical of need for unskilled immigrant labor. More than 70 percent of voters nationally agreed that there were, “plenty of Americans to do low-wage jobs that require relatively little education, employers just need to pay higher wages and treat workers better to attract Americans,” compared to 21 percent who said we need immigrants because there were not enough Americans to do all such jobs. The results were very similar in all the contested states and districts surveyed.



Center for Immigration Studies


Why did tancredo drop out? why is hunter getting 0 votes in the primary? If what you are saying was true then dems should Never win an election.
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Old 01-10-2008, 11:21 PM
 
Location: Helena, Montana
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Why did tancredo drop out? why is hunter getting 0 votes in the primary? If what you are saying was true then dems should Never win an election.
It's not what I'm saying, it's what the Center for immigration studies is saying, and yes, I believe it to be true.
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:59 AM
 
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Smile You Bet Americans are Concerned

I agree. Most Americans are concerned and rightly so. Whether they state it this way or not most Americans believe everyone belongs somewhere. If you need to go where you don't belong you must have good reason and abide by the immigration laws. If you do not you have committed a crime--which should be a felony--making the violator ineligible to remain in the US. Basically it should not be any more complicated than this! Period.
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Old 01-11-2008, 03:11 AM
 
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There's concern and then there's the question of how much concern.

Sure, there are 'polls' which show various levels of concern.

Depending on how the question is asked, and what the methodology is for compiling the results, you will get a very wide range of answers.

Asking the CIS for their 'poll' numbers is sort of like asking AARP if insurance is a good deal for old folks. AARP sells insurance.

CIS sells sensationalism about the dangers of 'illegal' immigration.

Just like CIS, if it's in their business interests to put the right face on their polls, ...what do you expect from their polls, but a result that makes them look good.

You won't find CIS citing polls which give lower results, even though most polls don't come anywhere near describing the levels of 'concern' as high.

Compare CIS with a roundup of several polls, and you will find CIS at the very high end of any measured 'concern'.
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I'm not sure why the header says anything about a 'lie', no one I know says there is no concern..... I think the header is overstating the case for differences in what the polls show.
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Old 01-11-2008, 05:44 AM
 
Location: Helena, Montana
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There's concern and then there's the question of how much concern.

Sure, there are 'polls' which show various levels of concern.

Depending on how the question is asked, and what the methodology is for compiling the results, you will get a very wide range of answers.

Asking the CIS for their 'poll' numbers is sort of like asking AARP if insurance is a good deal for old folks. AARP sells insurance.

CIS sells sensationalism about the dangers of 'illegal' immigration.

Just like CIS, if it's in their business interests to put the right face on their polls, ...what do you expect from their polls, but a result that makes them look good.

You won't find CIS citing polls which give lower results, even though most polls don't come anywhere near describing the levels of 'concern' as high.

Compare CIS with a roundup of several polls, and you will find CIS at the very high end of any measured 'concern'.
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I'm not sure why the header says anything about a 'lie', no one I know says there is no concern..... I think the header is overstating the case for differences in what the polls show.
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Umm, cause you live in Alaska, so for you or anyone around you it's not a concern. And as far as CIS being biased, I'd say they're a lot less biased then groups like, I don't know, the PEW HISPANIC CENTER, who you and others have claimed to be completely unbiased.
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Old 01-11-2008, 07:23 AM
 
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Why did tancredo drop out? why is hunter getting 0 votes in the primary? If what you are saying was true then dems should Never win an election.
they haven't won in a while, have they
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Old 01-11-2008, 08:04 AM
 
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they haven't won in a while, have they
Are you kidding me? Who won back the house and senate and majority of the governorship last election? Who won back the majority in the state house and senate in virginia? What party is going to win more seats in the house and senate next year?
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