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Old 01-13-2008, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Huntersville/Charlotte, NC and Washington, DC
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I was standing in a checkout line at a grocery store and three very dark skinned Hispanic men were checking out in front of me and the cashier was trying to speak to them in english. They did not understand a word she was speaking. When my term came in line the cashier told me how much she hated illegal aliens-- like those guys. She went on to say if they were coming to our country do so legally and speak english.

The cashier assumed that because they were working class types (they were doing landscaping), were not able to speak english and were very dark skinned Hispanic Indian types, they must of been illegal aliens.

In Arizona they say if you look at a spanish speaking person who does not know english there is a seventy percent chance they are illegal.

I also assume that too, based on statistics and the lack of legal visas for working class hispanics, but who knows. What would you assume?
I work at a bank and a lot of hispanics that can't speak english have valid Virginia Id's (VA requires proof of legal presence for any ID or DL) so i can't assume they are illegal. But most illegal aliens dont speak english.
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Old 01-13-2008, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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The only way we will know if someones actually illegal is if we ask them. In which they probably answer. I bet we wouldn't ask a Mexican with white skin and blue eyes if he's illegal.
OTOH: I have known Anglos with dark skin and eyes who were mistaken for Hispanic a lot.
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Old 01-13-2008, 01:14 PM
 
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I wouldn't assume they were illegal, but it certainly would indicate a possible red flag.

If the FBI was assigned to start routing out illegals, this is something their profilers certainly would take an interest in. It would be one of the many other traits they would profile.
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Old 01-13-2008, 01:35 PM
 
Location: SW Kansas
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Yes, I do assume they are here illegally. One of the immigration requirements is to be proficient in english.
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Old 01-13-2008, 01:40 PM
 
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My grandparents speak very little English and they are legal residents. The ones speaking English like Americans are the children of illegals (who are American citizens) and children of immigrants in general.
Agreed. There are legal immigrants that do no not speak much English.
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Old 01-13-2008, 01:41 PM
 
Location: southern california
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the obvious?............
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Old 01-13-2008, 02:19 PM
 
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The only way we will know if someones actually illegal is if we ask them. In which they probably answer. I bet we wouldn't ask a Mexican with white skin and blue eyes if he's illegal.
I have no doubt that you're correct. Your hypothetical "white-skinned, blue eyed Mexican" would probably 'get a pass'. Just like American-born Hispanics sometimes DON'T get a pass. That's prejudice, and it's wrong. It makes the "illegal---legal" controversy MUCH more complicated than it should be...
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Old 01-13-2008, 02:21 PM
 
Location: California
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I have no doubt that you're correct. Your hypothetical "white-skinned, blue eyed Mexican" would probably 'get a pass'. Just like American-born Hispanics sometimes DON'T get a pass. That's prejudice, and it's wrong. It makes the "illegal---legal" controversy MUCH more complicated than it should be...
I totally agree 100%.
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Old 01-13-2008, 02:23 PM
 
Location: SW Kansas
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If they spoke english they would probably all "get a pass".
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Old 01-13-2008, 02:25 PM
 
Location: California
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If they spoke english they would probably all "get a pass".
Even so I know an illegal who was brought by his parents when they were young. White skin, blue eyes and speaks English like an average American.
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